Very true. I must confess that I am less enamoured with some of the modern range though I do think that this is usually a fault with the genre technology rather than B&O in particular. I too have voted with my feet for a number of products!

"Don't agree. In my view the BL5 is if anything under priced and they have been reviewed most favourably. Have a look here .

I certainly think that it is the bargain in the present range.

But speakers will divide opinion and each to their own."

I'am totally agree with the last sentence - and therefore I told, if somebody prefer the BL5, then it's a good choice for him.

The only one. But, IMHO, it was never been questioned. It is not, and never was a question for me, that if somebody loves the BL5, than he must choose it if he can afford it.

The questions in this topic were different:

- Could You find a better sound quality at this price range? And the answer is yes, You can find a lots of them. In the GBP 75k range? Incredible lot... but, so what? Does it have anything to do with the BL5 quality? IMHO, no.

- The other question was, why B&O has a bad name in the audiophile forums. I think, the answer is simple, as I told: There are a lots of better sound quality product on the market for a less money, if You look to a speaker in ONE aspect only.

Therefore, both arguments can be absolutely true in the same time: Your opinion that it's a truly underpriced products, and the audiophiles argument, that it's an overpriced speaker - just because You see the same product from "different angles". But just because of this, these are not an arguments for me, just like the payed advertisements, and the audiophile reviews, because it's only opinions, and not facts.

IMHO for somebody who likes the BL5 it worth every penny, for somebody who doesn't like it, than it's an overpriced speaker.

The solution is simple for me: Let the audiophiles think it's overpriced, and let them belive that a GBP20k cabeling can be the Nirvana. And believe it: For them, THAT IS the Nirvana. Not and never will be the BL5. Just for the record: If an audiophile forum talks about cables, which costs more then a whole brand new BL5, than I think, the most worse argument against to them to talk about jealousy, like they can't afford B&O... 

You are talking about Ferrari, they talk about Nitro powered street race cars. 
I think, the comparisation is totally useless and can't be done. 
You are not able to compare products, which used to answer for different needs.

For the B&O fans, the B&O feeling is one of the most important thing, for the audiophiles, the sound quality is the only thing. IMHO if You say on an audiophile forum that the B&O has a reasonable price, than is the same "mistake" as to say here, not the BL5 is the top of the world in the sound quality at this price range.

But let me ask it very simple: Who cares about the audiophiles HERE? Does it matter how they think about the B&O products? No. Why You wish to think this is the most ultimate speaker on the World? Will You like it more? Will it be better? Have You ever heard a speaker better after it was well advertised? If it had any kind of an award? No.

Because it depends on You, and nothing else.


 

"Ofcourse there are plenty of people who now B&O is about the passion and the nice design combined with a good sound or vision and not only the sound or vision, but that group of people is becomming smaller and smaller. So I thougth, if B&O send out some stuff to shows, people can see what B&O is all about and it will repair his name..."

Let's see it from a different angle, because I think, that's not a big problem. Do You wish to repair the name? Let's see it simple:

- Does B&O have solution for all possible audio and video sources?

No.

- There is no solution for DVD-A, no solution for SACD in audio, and currently not any support for the LP. Let it be straight, B&O has only CD players for the regular audio resources. Is it just because the other solutions are expensive? No. You can purchase a non branded SACD/DVDA player for GBP40.

- There is no solution for HD-DVD, no solution for Blu-Ray, not any HD format. Currently B&O supports only DVD, and in just a few products, for a lot more expensive price, than the opponents, with a lot less available connections for example. Is it a big thing to create a BR-HD DVD recorder combo? No. LG can do it for a GBP500. 

Am I right, or am I wrong that it's a little bit outdated thinking from a company who previously led the market with the new ideas and solutions for ALL Your needs?

Can You integrate all Your systems with B&O as it was possible 10 years ago? No. Not even with at least as many solutions are available, which were available at that time. 

So, if I know well, than currently You are unable to build a full B&O system, which can handle at least any of the high end formats...

And how can a brand be a market leader without supporting the leading technology? 
A high end audio supporter without any high end audio format support? 
A high end video supporter without any high end video format support?
Not even a projector, not even a brand new technology, not even a full integration possibility.

Does other brands has this options?

Yes...

And that's the problem, not the rumours.

IMHO.