Electrified. I appreciate that you're looking for a specific solution, but you're going well beyond what has been discussed and making assumptions that are already affecting the performance of the product. I have discussed several characteristics of the product, but not all of them. There have to be some surprises on launch day.

And naming is important. I'm "hung up" on it because names represent specific products and you're conflating facts to form an imagined picture of what these products will do and how they interact. If you don't like being corrected, make fewer errors.

Whatever happens on launch day (and there's still items tbd as far as that), there is a cohesive picture of the new product line-up that goes well beyond the Encore. If you still don't like it this winter, you'll probably like it this coming summer, and on and on...

TripEnglish wrote:

Electrified. I appreciate that you're looking for a specific solution, but you're going well beyond what has been discussed and making assumptions that are already affecting the performance of the product. I have discussed several characteristics of the product, but not all of them. There have to be some surprises on launch day.

And naming is important. I'm "hung up" on it because names represent specific products and you're conflating facts to form an imagined picture of what these products will do and how they interact. If you don't like being corrected, make fewer errors.

Whatever happens on launch day (and there's still items tbd as far as that), there is a cohesive picture of the new product line-up that goes well beyond the Encore. If you still don't like it this winter, you'll probably like it this coming summer, and on and on...

I think this is about as good as it is going to be as least for awhile.  At least we know, there will be options and I now know that for any new cabling, I should use Cat 7 wiring.  I am willing to wait for the surprise and if I don't like it, I won't buy.  The iPod dock must be coming out soon because my dealer asked if I was interested in it.  I am not.  I recently purchased a new iPod nano in red which as least to me sounds better than recent iPods and iPhones.

Thanks Trip for the hints.  I can wait.

A couple questions Trip:

  Will the BS5 Encore be a 'portable' piece?  I anticipate not,but am curious.

Also, beonet seems to be doing away with Beolink Wireless. . since it appears some type of wireless communication will be built in.

Lastly, will the BS5 Encore use the B&O software currently in place for the Beomedia/BM5 or something new to access the data on your NAS or comp?

Thanks

MJM

Third time's a charm - My post has been disappearing for some odd reason.

Beophile.com writes that the Encore will have the ability to play compressed files from your iTunes library on your computer. That has me worried: Why the need to specify "compressed"? Hopefully it's a brainfart, and they haven't actually removed the ability to play lossless.

@electrified :

As Lossless is actually compressed files, there is still hope...

mbee wrote:

@electrified :

As Lossless is actually compressed files, there is still hope...

That's not what one usually refers to when using the word "compressed". Rather, it's usually synonymous with lossy files, such as MP4/AAC, MP3, MP2, ATRAC etc.

Dear B&O,

(especially the R&D of B&O)

which era do you think you guys are living in, gazing at sheep through your factory's windows?

insisting on disasterious bs5 and/or bm5, really?

you can buy a mac mini and an ipad together for a thousand euros and play not only audio but also video files through the hdmi into the beocenter 3 and through it whichever monitor(s) and speakers you wish, and also play same files on the very ipad too, wirelessly.

so until the time you begin to imagine to top that kind of flexibility, cease any further media serving-link room distributing-digital music organising/playing (or trying to do those things anyway) products, for your own sake...

also abandon any existing or planned remote controllers because the beolink app for ipod/iphone is the best ever remote you guys have come up with and it gives the user the convenience to control B&O and non-B&O products(thru MLGW) and to use the fabulous apple remote app all on the very same device...

I have invested over fifty thousand euros in your products in the last 3 years (mostly speakers including a pair of fantastic bl5s) and i am beginning to hate your brand because of the lack of imagination and inspiration of your department (R&D).

but to be fair I must say that i think future 3d tvs (if you are planning to adopt), netlink and future digital speakers and maybe the beosound 8 are steps taken in the right direction, so keep it real, please, for once in the last decade and concentrate on those areas while continuing on enhancing the products you already succeed in like speakers and home telephones (and maybe some recent TVs like 10 or 8, although the fact that they are cruelly over priced)

I'm not sure what you mean by "future" digital speakers. The BL5s are digital in that they have a DAC in them. Or do you mean other speakers that may come with a DAC in the future? I mean, such as some DAC'd BL9s?

I'm with you on the useability front, but I hesitate to use Apple as an example, because it's quite the closed system. But more useability and flexibility is needed if they want to play ball with the iPod generation and the rest of the digital league.

Edit:

I somehow missed to address this:

furkank wrote:

also abandon any existing or planned remote controllers because the beolink app for ipod/iphone is the best ever remote you guys have come up with

I have to disagree. I don't want to use a touch screen-only remote. No matter which company made it. I want to be able to feel the buttons without looking - at least the most used ones. Further, I don't think it would be a smart move to hinge all one's media integration and useability on a third party product, and even a closed eco system such as the iPhone/iPad/iPod/itunes setup. In fact, I think that doing so would make the rest of the B&O setup, excluding the speakers superfluous. If you needed an iPod/iPhone/iPad to control things, you also need iTunes, and with that you might as well disregard the rest of the hardware from B&O, apart from their speakers.

I am working on a solution that will bring usability and BEO4 remote capabilies.

1. Touchscreen PC running i-tunes - Kiosk solution, can be controlled via iphone/ipod/ipad remote as well (music on RAID 5 NAS)

2. Lintronic solution to use Beo4 - Convert the Beo4 signals to IR codes understood by the PC reciever

3. Maybe add a DAC to improve sound quality ...

All this using a Beosound 3000.

Ralf

PS: Better - but more expensive - solution would be an upcoming imac touch with beoport and linkplayer....

Indeed a Mac mini with USB dac running linkplayer, with beo4/ipod touch or ipad for control,  is a pretty sweet combo as it is.
All is connected in my case to a beosystem 7000. 

Both the ipad or a beo4 can be used, depending on how interactive you want to get. The portability and versatility of this system is truly liberating...