Hi Lee,

I don't understand...

...there are other brands?

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linder wrote:

 

Millemissen wrote:

linder wrote:

I am going to buy the Oppo 4K UDP 205 Blu-ray player.  https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

Out of curiosity - why the 205?

How will you have it connected?

MM

Hi MM,

I am anticipating I will like the new B&O/LG TV.  I plan on using the TV as my media hub not only for video but my music system also.  I will connect an ethernet cable to my home network, a USB connection to my MacPro, and of course HDMI. I might also connect HDMI audio but I am not exactly sure how it would work on the new TV.   I have already ordered a pair of Beolab 17s in black that will take 8 weeks to cross the Atlantic.  Maybe I am being too optimistic but I already have an earlier Oppo Blu-ray player.  I am really impressed with the brand.  I am hoping that I can use an ML/NL adapter for the Beocenter 2.  Any ideas that might help?

Just a couple of short thoughts, since this is kind of off-topic in this thread.

I suppose, that you are going to connect it to the 'new' tv directly via HDMI?

Since you have ordered the BL17s, these probably will be connected to the tv as well.

This means, that you will not benefit from almost all of the differences between the 203 and the 205.

The 205 has a dedicated analog output section for audio, which in that case won't be used....

....unless you plan to connect seperate speakers there in addition (2 channel/stereo and/or up to 7.1).

The 205 has a very good headphone amp - nice to have, if you need it (but is that worth the difference in price?).

The 205 costs a lot more, than the 203 - maybe going for the 203 and saving the money, would be a better solution.

You can get a NL/ML Converter for that money!

As you already know, the OPPO's are excellent machines.

But (especially the 205) have a lot of features, that you don't need, when they are connected to a BeoVision.

The audioengine in a modern BV can very well process the sound that comes along the HDMI with the picture of the BRDiscs and from all sources connected to the OPPO, when the speakers are connected to the tv.

MM

I'm living in a very tolerant environment:  The B&O kids are playing peaceful with kids from Technics, Sony, Alesis, Yamaha, Pioneer, Denon, Roland, Akai, Cakewalk, Tannoy, JVC, Samson, TC electronic, Crestron, B&W, Tascam and LG. They often complement each other very well.

When it's getting cold in the winter they are allowed to play and happy with a T.A.C. tube amp and enjoy his warm glowing tubes.

I didn't list the things I have that aren't B&O in my video system:

Downstairs apartment:

Samsung 32 inch LCD set - Does alright for the  purpose despite having the usual LCD issues.

Main AV setup:

Panasonic VT65 series 65 inch plasma - exquisite picture

Marantz 5 channel AVR - performs fine, never calls attention to itself, just works, easy setup with included mic

Infinity LCR speaker bar - sounds fine

Infinity 12 inch powered sub - an outstanding performer, even has a built in one band parametric EQ

Old Radio Shack Minimus 7 speakers for rear channels - work fine, eventually to be replaced by BL6000s after I fix them.

I'm quite happy with this approach, it works well, was affordable, and has been very reliable.

Audio Only:

BS9000, Playmaker, BG3000, BL9s in main living room

BL8000s and BL2000 in two other rooms

Beolit 15 for carrying around, BeoPlay A3 for portable video and audio

YannChris wrote:

Hi Lee,

I don't understand...

...there are other brands?

As a manufacturer of HDMI products, I don't wish to poo poo many people's views on quality of products, however there is an incredibly limited number of actual parts that can be used to deliver for example 4K video. 

If you wanted to compare AVRs for example, pretty much all of them are using the same silicon to do the job as such it really comes down to the analog side that you would be comparing. 

If you are trying to compare and contrast for example an Oppo 4K BD Player and a Samsung one, the components are the same, because there is only one IC manufacturer and only one Lens manufacturer that can read a UHD disk. Everything else is just cosmetic fluff.

TV alternative could only be a manufacturer that has Netflix, Amazon Video and HBO apps built into TV's OS - hence Loewe does not fit (if I want to have a hassle with an extra external box - and how elegant is that btw - then I'll simply have B&O). So it can be either LG or Sony, I don't like Samsung as a brand simply.

On audio side, it would be Apple HomePod "mesh" around the apartment potentially. And even without the HomePod being launched yet, you just can't compare the convenience of Music & Siri integration (example: Hey Siri, play some vocal jazz) against B&O endless navigation through the app and no integration between Deezer and TuneIn. I imagine it will become even "sweeter" when the HomePod arrives.

And final comment: this is, I'm afraid, the same path I took after trying several B&O headphones with endless problems and then ended up with AirPods being happier than ever. I just can't be bothered with B&O complexity, not really great products recently and lack of integration. So sorry.

Agree 100%. The AirPods are outstanding and I love mine and use them all the time. The H5s were a cumbersome product in comparison. Apple can't seem to manufacture these headphones quick enough with waiting lists still at 6 weeks, which has been the case since launch around December 2016. I love that they are groundbreaking, sound amazing and work perfectly with no problems identified whatsoever since purchase. I smile every time I use them and this is how I used to feel when using my B&O products. Alas, no longer. I appreciate B&O doesn't have the resources that Apple does but at the end of the day the best product wins for me and that's Apple, every time these days. Apple are what B&O used to be. Simon.

I have a Tandberg 1040 receiver mated with a Phillips 212 turntable pushing out of a pair of S-75's. Love that arrangement.