Controlling Line out Volume control of MC/MCL problem

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sashaz (archived)
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Posted October 18, 2010 at 20:08 GMT
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Hi there,

I have an overture that I have connected to a MCL2P amp via a powerlink cable. The amp works and drives a pair of speakers in the dinning room but the volume on the anthony gallo nucleaus micro speakers is a bit low. I have to turn up the overture to level 30 to get any good volume on the gallo speakers. This then means that the beolab 4000 speakers are quite loud in the living room (also connected to the overture via powerlink). I have used the option to have it as purely a non controlled slave (option 0)

Thus I wanted to know if I can increase the basic level of the MCL2P volume in comparison to the beolab 4000 and then keep this increased volume saved when I use it at any time?

Thanks for any advice.

 

i have edited this as i have changed the amp to the MC/MCL amp and linked it to my overture with a ML and powerlink cable. I have tried every option and checked the IR sensor wiring and it still does not allow me to change the volume. Inface the ML cable doesnt seem to do anything really as the PL must be connected for the amp to work at all.

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Doctor (archived)
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Posted October 19, 2010 at 01:55 GMT
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The MCL2P is just a power amplifier so is totally dependent on the input level. The amount of amplification is fixed. To get independent volume control, you need a Beolink active box somewhere in your system, either for the MCP or the 4000s.

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stotty1111
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Posted October 19, 2010 at 03:00 GMT
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I agree, am using an Active with an IR eye as a slave , masterlinked to an Ouverture, with the MCl2p power linked to the active, works well with a pair of RL6000's

Tony

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sashaz (archived)
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Posted October 19, 2010 at 04:33 GMT
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Thanks for that, from the forum and reading I thought that was the case but was hoping there was a secret way ro trick to do that. Have to look for that active and eye combo now. Might swap it for a passive and eye from a sales website instead of ebaying the other bits.

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Posted October 19, 2010 at 05:03 GMT
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sashaz wrote:

Thanks for that, from the forum and reading I thought that was the case but was hoping there was a secret way ro trick to do that. Have to look for that active and eye combo now. Might swap it for a passive and eye from a sales website instead of ebaying the other bits.

Maybe you want to keep your MCL 2P and add an MCL2A relay box with IR receiver. This way you can set up your dining room as a linkroom and control the Ouverture independantly from the mainroom (living room). It`s also possible to add more linkrooms just install more MCL2A or MCL2AV (for a Beovision). See MCL2P user manual.

Stefan

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stotty1111
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Posted October 19, 2010 at 15:14 GMT
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An ML/MCL unit is basically a passive the amp is the same from what my memory recalls, it is also equipped with an ir facility - you may pick one up slightly cheaper as I think it sort of precedes the Passive

Tony

- you would obviously ML it although it does have poweer link as well(the guise in which i used one)_

 

 

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sashaz (archived)
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Posted October 19, 2010 at 20:03 GMT
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There is a MCL2A on ebay boxed so might try and get that one. thanks alot!

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Doctor (archived)
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Posted October 20, 2010 at 01:58 GMT
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An MCL2A will not be that useful. You need an MCL:2AV as this has a fair degree of independent volume control - The MCL2A will ju8st adjust the volume of the main system, which you can already do. The MCL2AV essentually has its own pre-amp. It is dependent still on the volume of the system - you cannot have one very quiet and the other very loud, but a fair amount of difference is possible.

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sashaz (archived)
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Posted October 20, 2010 at 08:57 GMT
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Thanks, there is another one on ebay but its for 2x MCL2AV. Nothing is every very straight forward.

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Vienna (archived)
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Posted October 23, 2010 at 09:48 GMT
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stotty1111 wrote:

I agree, am using an Active with an IR eye as a slave , masterlinked to an Ouverture, with the MCl2p power linked to the active, works well with a pair of RL6000's

Tony

Tony's solution will give you exactly what you need/want!

Main room:       BLB 4000 - sound controlled via BeoSound Ouverture

Dining room:    Passive Speakers - sound controlled by a BeoLink Active (MasterLink!) and
                        powered by the already existing MCL2P power-amp.
                        (MCL2P connected to the BL-Aktive using existing PL-Cable)

Shopping List: 1 BeoLink (ML) Active (including IR-Sensor & Sensor-Cable)
                        1 ML-Cable from Ouverture to BeoLink Active

Alternative:     1 BeoLink Passive (including IR-Sensor & Sensor-Cable)
                         1 ML-Cable from Ouverture to BeoLink Passive
                         MCL2P is not needed - sell it!


Forget MCL solutions if you already have a ML Audio Master (your Ouverture) !!

It's outdated, more complicated and offers very limited possibilities to adjust the sound independently. 
As long as your MCL2P and not a ML/MCL converter is used as a MCL Driver the main room can't be
muted independently.

Some MCL limitations:

Xtra Speaker Kit - type 2047            - independent ON/OFF in Link-Room
                                                         - volume and sound adjustments delivered by master unit

Xtra Aktive Speaker Kit - type 202x  - independent ON/OFF in Link-Room
                                                         - different volume to a certain amount 
                                                         -  sound adjustments delivered by master unit
                                                         !! for active speakers - will need a 2nd MCL2P to power passive speakers  !!

Xtra TV -  type 2031-2040                 - independent ON/OFF in Link-Room
                                                          - different volume to a larger amount
                                                          -  independent sound adjustments (Bass/Treble/Balance) possible
                                                          !! will need a TV  in the Link-Room !!                                                            

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