scognamiglio1969 wrote:

No one can match the b&o year over year feeling.

No, true, but then there are a lot of people who say B&O products look like they were designed in the 80s and, to be fair, they can give that impression, especially when you have a lot of kit. Also, the design generally appears more to the 35+ year olds (those who can remember the 80s), than the younger generation. The way most of us look at B&O design is very different from how the younger generation perceive the products. As 9Lee rightly says, the people who vote B&O products as super cool aren't the consumers who walk in to the store (or do not walk in to the store), they consist of a 40-year-old bespectacled, cashmere-wearing, BMW-driving committee.

Besides, speakers do not "age" as badly as most tech equipment as technology improvements do not tend to influence speakers. With laptops getting thinner and smaller by the year, a two year old laptop can look big, cumbersome and, thus, out of date.

i feel that B&O are also Choking you and not only that scrimpting on their products performance. for example take the Avant. for its day it had an amazing picture (ok in todays standards) but the sound was amazing! and when it came out it was only about 4 grand, plus the later models had a built in DVD player to replace the back breaking VCR. But now if you want to buy a 32 inch B&O tv you get a stunning design. But the speakers are no where near as good as the ones on the Avant. plus you don't get a built in DVD player or HDD recorder. And then the price is about 7 thousand. Which is 3 grand more for what you could get an avant for! 

i feel that B&O are also Choking you and not only that scrimpting on their products performance. for example take the Avant. for its day it had an amazing picture (ok in todays standards) but the sound was amazing! and when it came out it was only about 4 grand, plus the later models had a built in DVD player to replace the back breaking VCR. But now if you want to buy a 32 inch B&O tv you get a stunning design. But the speakers are no where near as good as the ones on the Avant. plus you don't get a built in DVD player or HDD recorder. And then the price is about 7 thousand. Which is 3 grand more for what you could get an avant for! 

CJM1 wrote:

i feel that B&O are also Choking you and not only that scrimpting on their products performance. for example take the Avant. 

Again, living in the past. You have to move on. It's very very difficult producing a TV in 2012 that both looks ultra-modern (thin) and also ships with superb audio (requires depth). They aren't mutually exclusive. That's the problem B&O have these days.

This is easily resolved by connecting separate speakers. That's the only way around this dilemma. You simply can't have both, easily.

BV12 has proved this. Top-of-the-range picture, ultra thin, but poor centre speaker. No way near the level of the 7.4, for example. However, connect BL3s/9s/5s/12s and the sound is incredible.

I think in 2005, the new BeoVision 7-32 could have been the successor of the Avant:

32" screen, superb materials, amazing loudspeaker, surround connections, motorised stand...

But the picture quality with bad source was poor.

Maybe the 7-40 MKVI could be the real successor...

Hi

Personally I believe that B&O have what they need to survive now with the line up within B&O Play. I think this is a really good start. When a company launch a new series, like this V1 television, they normally start with the top line model. Hopefully we will see even cheaper TVs in the B&O Play range (and of course more expensive ones as well).

I have only seen the pictures but it looks good. I am satisfied so far.

B R

Clakke

I don't think it will be easy for B&O, now that Apple are buying Loewe for $113 million USD

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Apple has been linked with the acquisition of German electronics company and reputable television manufacturer Loewe AG, with reports that a deal could be announced internally by the end of next week, AppleInsider reports.

Sources have told the Apple-focused website that Apple has entered negotiations with the premium television manufacturer, tabling a €87.3 million (around $113 million) bid for the company, although it has reportedly yet to be agreed.

However, the company is said to have been “advised by its financial advisor to accept the offer and a final decision is scheduled to be announced internally before 18 May 2012.”

One of Loewe’s major shareholders is Sharp, a company that is said to be supplying panels for Apple’s new television sets. The company was established in 1923, has around 1,000 employees and is regarded for its stunning flat-screen televisions.

The purchase of a Loewe would all but confirm Apple’s intent to introduce new televisions, bringing aboard employees of a company that has manufactured sets for over 75 years.

B&O will fade away into insignificance if this materialises on the 18th May.

ouverture wrote:

B&O will fade away into insignificance if this materialises on the 18th May.

Not only B&O, but Loewe, as Apple would certainly close it and just use people, patents and technologies.

it does seem an odd mix, Sharp, Apple and Loewe,  but I don't think for a minute that Apple have gone into this blind, I have a feeling Sharp and Apple are looking at ways to increase market share, and Loewe needed to be taken out of the equation !