355f:

For my part, the biggest imprvements we are going to see with BR will be in sound and not picture formats. Alas, without HDMI 1.3 these new codecs will not be available to existing BS3 holders. This is another fault with the way BnO operates which i meantioned before!

I'm already astonished my 2008-model BV7-40 MKIII doesn't support HDMI 1.3. I'd be even more astonished if this couldn't be supported in the BS3 as I was told it was a software update (but believed myself that HDMI 1.3 was a hardware upgrade).

My reply about Blu-ray on the BV7-40 MKIII was 'approved' (see above) after it had been moderated all day.

Its a hardware, not a software issue. The really worrying thing is that with the new BR players comming out (ie Panasonic BD30) they are all without internal decoding of the new sound formats in order to save money.

A relatively cheap onkyo or Denon AV receiver supports the new codecs vias HDMI 1.3 but the BS3 does not.

BnO should clarify the position as to how much its going to cost existing owners of these products to update ( if indeed thats possible)

Whilst I dont believe one can futureproof products - BnO should take a leaf out of Meridians products- An item bought many years ago can be upgraded by software and firmware updates via the web to meet the standards of an item just off the factory line today.

355f:

Totest this theoryI have the bourne ultimatum  BR on pioneer 8 series with PS3 and a standard dvd played on BV4 with BS3- the standard dvd is far better in every way. Checkout AV forums for a list of BR discs that are actually worth having for picture quality alone- its not many!

How did you do that test? Bourne Ultimatum - or any Bourne movie - isn't available on BR.

ALL my Blu-rays are better than their SD equivalent (and also share the same issues, ie problematic camera panning on Ocean's 13). 355F, you're getting carried away again :)

Sorry full aplogies!  Actually my associate has the Pioneer panel now and the dvd was via the toshiba  ep30 HDDVD.

Im delighted all your blue rays are better than ds dvds but please look at the following

355f:

Im delighted all your blue rays are better than ds dvds but please look at the following

355F, I don't really need someone else to offer me my opinion. ie. what that forum states is irrevelant.

What I would say is that some Blu-rays are not well encoded (see my earlier post) and are no better than an upscaled SD DVD. However, the same upscaled DVD has the same issues as the Blu-ray. Indeed, upscaled SD DVDs look more like a copy than the original disc.

I have SD DVDs and Blu-rays of 300, Last Samurai, Casino Royale, The Departed and many others. Every Blu-ray has better image quality than the SD DVD, but that doesn't mean that I'm impressed with the Blu-ray version of the DVD - like I say above, Ocean's Thirteen is fairly poor in Blu-ray (but the same issues, camera panning, pixelisation etc, apply to the SD DVD, but are just less obvious).

Sometimes a survey that has been complied by a substantial group can be accurate. In the case of the discs specially mentioned above one finds that these do indeed have high ratings.

The issue is further compounded with he fact that the bv7 handles HD far better than SD dvd so there will of course be 'issues' when watching the same disc material HDvSD

"Its not the TV (BV7) ... It´s the new Blu-ray technology ho hasn't developed to its full capacity yet!

The BV7 inbuilt BS3 is a very powerful video engine and read on a Swedish forum that the Beosystem3 only use about 50% of its totally power with DVD playback and 80-90% with HD material.. "

That  surely cannot bbe true if Mr andersons Blu ray on his PS3 plays through his BV9 and just now I am looking at a Blutech playing through a compose and it is a clear sharp picture. I must admit they are more succeptible to change and you have to set them up correctly, however with Warner now going across to Blu Ray it sounds like the death knell for HD DVD.

 

Regards