[BV5] Does B&O overrule the panasonic settings?

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I am in favour of a tuning club.

I have a BS3 (need to update the software) a lab7.1 , Pana TH50PF10, Lab9s and Lab3, PS3 ... but I have never had a chance to connect everything up. I have been collection the bits slowly and I have between homes for almost 9 months ... can't wait to get it set up ... not even sure if I can get it working.

Beobuddy I hope that you don't mind a side question for the BV5.

Is it possible to SW update the set top box list?

I'm thinking about getting a digital Zaptor box, though the BV5 should be connected with scart I'm still hoping to get a better signal than today and I will get some extra features (like rent movies, make a pause, replay etc.)

Thanks

Yes, both the SW for the up and the STB-C are upgraded by myself before I placed the BV5.

The BV5 software was upgraded from 15.2 to 16.2 and

the STB-C was upgraded from 3.6 to 4.11 West Europe version.

I'm using 2 topfield 5500's for satelite. One is named " DTV' and the other " Vaux".

With this set up I can choose independent in the livingroom and kitchen. 

 

Changing the STB-C is the easiest part. Just release the frame and cloth/wooden board. After opening the first thing you see in the middle contains the STB-C in a small metal box.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Beogen wrote:

kawo wrote:

Did you order the Panansonic or the B&O one? The item number you mentined is the orginal Panasonic DVI module.

I have a G10 hd ready panel with a BS3, unfortuntely this does not work 100% as the BS3 always thinks as it is a G10 and has to be full HD. So with Auto detect you get no picture, but switching to the G9 HD Ready manualy does not let me choose all settings in the picture control menu (e.g. size)

I ordered the Panasonic module.

In a previous German post forummember Baddik mentioned that he used the B&O DVI module with better results. I can't remember what the difference was.

Appearently, I also have no control over the size menu, it's greyed out, but that's about it what I'm missing, I think...

 

hmm...any chance to get the B&O modul instead of the Panasonic modul? I would be very interested to understand the difference between both.

The difference should only be parts of the software of the module. If you connect a PC or MAC, than the Panel identifies itself as BV4 via the DVI. But the Autodetection of BS3 does not work :-(

To make the panel fully BS3 compatible, I guess parts of the panel sw have to be modified as well. AFAIK there is an update tool available....

I have a panasonic TH50PF10 and I have bought the HDMI module (2xHDMI) as I was told this would be better for 24fps (auto-detect or something). I also have a BS3, but none of this have been connected yet...

What should I consider before connecting everything up? What is this panel auto-detect setting in BS3? Should I turn this off? and manually choose BV4-50" ?

 

marcus_m wrote:

The difference should only be parts of the software of the module. If you connect a PC or MAC, than the Panel identifies itself as BV4 via the DVI. But the Autodetection of BS3 does not work :-(

 

As it identifies itself as a BV4 doesn't mean that its done by the DVI module. Mayby it's done by the panel itself through the DVI module.

By searching through several circuit diagrams, it is also possible that the data lead in the DVI connector is directly connected to the panel itself.

That would confirm the theory that (special B&O) settings in the panel itself makes that the panel is recognized as a B&O panel for the whole range (D5....D11).

If the DVI module would be responsible for the recognizion, then there would also be for every different type of B&O panel a different type of B&O DVI module. While panasonic itself handles for all the different panels the same DVI module. 

 

marcus_m wrote:

To make the panel fully BS3 compatible, I guess parts of the panel sw have to be modified as well. AFAIK there is an update tool available....

Probably that tool automates the procedure which probably can be done manually.

 

By the way I received today the original pana remote and at first sight the B&O panel responds to the service menu instruction. 😎

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Beobuddy wrote:

marcus_m wrote:

The difference should only be parts of the software of the module. If you connect a PC or MAC, than the Panel identifies itself as BV4 via the DVI. But the Autodetection of BS3 does not work :-(

As it identifies itself as a BV4 doesn't mean that its done by the DVI module. Mayby it's done by the panel itself through the DVI module.

As it is a Panasonic panel with a B&O DVI module, the identification is clearly done by the module. I think the identification is done in two steps: via DVI it only identifies "BV4" without any additional information and via the RS232 all other details are transferred, e.g. panel generation, size, resolution,....

 

In the BV4 service manual is an explanation how the change some HEX codes in the panel (or DVI module?) setup to make a Panasonic screen a B&O screen.

When comparing these settings with several service manuals, it seems to me that the code changes according to the panel generation, not the size.

Is there a volunteer to change this code and look into the BS3 service menu which information is coming in. The risk is that if you do something wrong the BS3 doesn't recognise the panel anymore and I don't have a spare TV.

This thread is getting better and better...

 

chrisped wrote:

I have a panasonic TH50PF10 and I have bought the HDMI module (2xHDMI) as I was told this would be better for 24fps (auto-detect or something). I also have a BS3, but none of this have been connected yet...

What should I consider before connecting everything up? What is this panel auto-detect setting in BS3? Should I turn this off? and manually choose BV4-50" ?

 

 

If you don't have an original BV4 then stay away from the autodetect setting. I had to turn it of in order to make my contrast setting to work.

Hopefully this thread will solve our problems 🤒

 

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