An awful lot of V1/BV11 owners wil never want or need this functionality.  I guess it's kept out of the TV as why should the price be bumped up for everyone when many people will never use it.

rednik wrote:

An awful lot of V1/BV11 owners wil never want or need this functionality.  I guess it's kept out of the TV as why should the price be bumped up for everyone when many people will never use it.

I didn't expect it to be in the TV, that's why I bought a  NL/ML converter. I was just hoping that this hardware update to the converter would be free or cheaper as I already spent several hundred Euros on a "faulty" NL/ML converter. 250 Euros for a delay box that probably costs 10 Euros to produce... :(

imac wrote:

I didn't expect it to be in the TV, that's why I bought a  NL/ML converter. 

Sorry, I was responding to Reauber but the quote didn't work

imac wrote:

 250 Euros for a delay box that probably costs 10 Euros to produce... :(

It might well cost 10 Euros to manufacture once all the development has been done, the software written and tested, the software for the TV updated tested and distributed, the PCBs deigned, tested and pressed etc.

There will be a huge number of hours and effort gone into it, and it's not like they sell hundreds of thousands of them to distribute that development cost accross.

We are talking about a smal, high end company, who are giving users the ability to integrate their old analogue equipment which might be thirty years old, with brand new digital equipment.

The costs are going to be considerable, and the relatively small number of purchasers who may want that functionality will unfortunately have to bear the cost in the price of the convertor and delay box.

Raeuber wrote:

  B&O should have integrate this technology into BV 11! Räuber

Unfortunately impossible in a Network Link product.
The ML-DELAY-BOX is, as it's name tells, a ML UNIT beeing connected via MasterLink.

It converts analogue ML signals into digital ones, delays theses signals and converts them
back to analogue for further (analogue) ML-distribution.  

Millemissen wrote:

Do yiu already know how it is connected to the converter?
And how much they charge for it - it should be a free upgrade IMO.

Approx EUR 250,- + EUR 50,- for the separate power supply. 

Guy wrote:

Surely that would work the other way around, and make NL audio echo-free on the ML system?
Isn't it the ML audio that needs delaying to compensate for the A to D conversion process?

NO - as far as I know the delay for ML works all the time. *)

If you want to distribute the sound of TV (or any other video source connected to a NL TV)
to the ML system the signal will be delayed twice.

Delay # 1 happens in the NL/ML Converter during converting digital NL to analogue ML
Delay # 2 happens in the ML-Delay box

*) EDIT:  If the new SW for the NL-Converter and the ML-Delay-Box is able to delay only
                ML audio sources while passing through the sound of NL video sources without
                adding delay, an echo free distribution of TV sound to the ML area might be possible. 
                Will check this when the delay box arrives in a few days... 

Have both downloaded and working. Removed a host of problems when listening to my BS5 and BV11 and link rooms.  Things just seem to work much better, before I had a lot of random problems. 

Time lag when playing audio seems to have disappeared (or at least reduced dramatically to the point I cannot notice - rooms are far apart) - which is fantastic

A new SW update seems to be available for BV11 and V1:

rob08 wrote:

A new SW update seems to be available for BV11 and V1:

 

link

 

Version: 1.0.4.31549 Size: 102.09 MB

No details on what's included. Anybody know?

I received another automatic software update yesterday. Does anyone know what was changed or fixed?

I just noticed that the HBBTV issue, that caused the TV to shut down, seems to be fixed.