BS5 supports Apple Lossless

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TripEnglish wrote:

I think it would be funny if they reduced the gaps without eliminating them. 

Do you mean like FLAC?

Stan

linder wrote:

Stan wrote:

Doesn't work for me 🙁.  The songs show up, and the bs5 pretends to play them, but no sound comes out of the speakers.  My bs5 was showing the update screen when i looked at it his morning so i do have whatever release was just pushed out.

Also, it doesnt surprize me that beoconnect doesnt recognize the ALAC file type - last i checked, it did not support flac, either.

Stan

No update for Beoconnect and the Beoplayer is worse.  As  usual, little coordination of updates and terrible documentation.

 

Actually I think the OP was misinformed somewhere.  No sense in blaming B&O when nobody could even prove the software update was intended for that.  The update changes some MOTS behavior with the Beo6 and allows users of the CD Ripper to rip to 320Kbps.  No mention of ALAC at all.

To double check:

1. I ripped another cd with iTunes to Apple Lossless

2. I ripped the same cd with Easy CD-DA Extractor to Apple Lossless

 

Both cd's are playing on the BS5; both are not recognized by the BS5e.

There is probably a difference with the most other users. I use Twonky 7.01 on a Ubuntu server (and not the 6.0.3x version)! For the insider; Twonky doesn't transcode the Apple Lossless file!

But this shouldn't be essential, Twonky server 6.0.30 detects the files also

Alex wrote:

linder wrote:

Stan wrote:

Doesn't work for me 🙁.  The songs show up, and the bs5 pretends to play them, but no sound comes out of the speakers.  My bs5 was showing the update screen when i looked at it his morning so i do have whatever release was just pushed out.

Also, it doesnt surprize me that beoconnect doesnt recognize the ALAC file type - last i checked, it did not support flac, either.

Stan

No update for Beoconnect and the Beoplayer is worse.  As  usual, little coordination of updates and terrible documentation.

 

Actually I think the OP was misinformed somewhere.  No sense in blaming B&O when nobody could even prove the software update was intended for that.  The update changes some MOTS behavior with the Beo6 and allows users of the CD Ripper to rip to 320Kbps.  No mention of ALAC at all.

Bang & Olufsen has been releasing software updates for BS5/BM5 for some time.  B&O is in the business of distributing software.  They could avoid these misunderstandings with timely updates of the specifications on the their website and they could also send an email to registered users explaining what has been updated.  Because of Beoworld, I usually know about updates.  I would be almost certain, that many owners of BS5/BM5 are not aware of the updates.  My BS5/BM5 is usually updated at about 2:00 am.  The reason I know this is because it is located in my bedroom and when the screen comes on, it wakes my up.  That is generally how I know there has been an update besides Beoworld.  The only time I get an email from B&O is when they are trying to sell me something or the monthly newsletter.

The BeoSound 5 communicates to the user that there's been an update and explains in detail what new features have been added and which features may have changed. E-mailing clients is absolutely unrealistic. In my store alone I have a data-base of nearly 8,000 clients. The number of e-mails that bounce back from mass mailings indicates that an e-mail address is not a static form of contact. Add to that the high number of clients who won't give out their e-mail address - even for the utility of warranty information and other notifications. 

And of course the liklihood of a client randomly checking the website for updates isn't realistic either. 

Ultimately have the notification come through the product itself after the update has taken place is the best way.

My BS5 was updated and I have the same problem as Stan. Song and cover art shows up, even on the Beo6, but Apple Lossless doesnt play. Strange that some get it to work and for others it isnt. Any thoughts?

I would think that if the software update officially supported Apple lossless, then the "latest release" screen would say so.  It must be some got the wrong version - I recall a few releases ago, I was "lucky" to get a newer release that had some new feature, but also crashed a lot and didn't work that well... However, it is nice to know that this is coming even if it is not hear yet.  I've been searching for something to convert my apple lossless into WMA lossless, and I wasn't finding it (although, admittedly, I was doing OK with the mp3s I created instead).  No need to search any longer if this is right around the corner.

Stan

This is why I think you can read the tags of an ALAC (apple lossless) file but can not play it on the BS5 : 

Both AAC and ALAC formats are stored in an mp4 container file.
So they have both the same .m4a extension.
This is like you have 2 paper  enveloppe's each containing a letter in a different language, but the address info on the enveloppe is the same. 
I think the tag database is identical for both formats, only the data of the music is different. (MPEG4 tags)
Thats  why the BS5 can read the tags of an ALAC file  but can not play it.
It can play AAC files  without any problem (with the same m4a extension)
So I do  not think apple loss less is supported  today

 

 

nico

 

 

Thats all fine, but why can some members play their ALAC (lossless) files after the update and some (like me and Stan) not?

Is it possible for the Members who can play ALAC to post some kind of versionnr of their latest firmware?

 

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