Martin,

maybe it was used in a link system, so you need to reconfigure it to video option 1?

Ralf

Hi Ralf,  checked in the service menu, the BS2 is set to option 1.  Have connected a DVD player to STB / DTV scart, perfect picture on CRT monitor and sound through the 6000 speakers very very good but still only when NONE speakers is selected in sound setup options.

easy to jump to conclusion that BS2 audio processor might be faulty but everything else seems to work - should the BS2 output sound at all on powerlink when it's being told there are "NONE" speakers connected?

Can anyone confirm if the above characteristics are typical of a BS2 sound fault?  If is is a fault is there a full reset proceedure that might clear a glitch?

Regards, Martin

Martin,

I need to get a CRT Monitor hooked up first (to see the menus....), then use a paper-clip to connect pin 2 + 3 on the rs 232 (is this possible? Maybe using a gender changer?) to trick the BS2. What CRT Monitor do you have? Any model nr. available?

Can you confirm the paper-clip method?

Thanks!

Ralf

It's a CTX (Taiwan) dinosaur - probably about 7 years old.  Model is VL701 and the label states "50/60Hz"  I know the BS2 VGA pinouts are exactly the same as a standard PC VGA monitor but have not been able to get LCD PC displays working - might be the 50Hz thing.  I would hazzard a guess that for some reason most older CRT monitors will display from the BS2.  I saw some settings while i was in the service menu for changing the display type - i only risked one change and it didn't stop my monitor working - a PC monitor monitor might be generic enough to work - i see form many postings the display settings seem to be the most problematic in solving

A paper clip might enlarge your gender changer pin holes (the BS2 is a 9 pin D-sub male out) but it will work.  Another way is to cut off the female end of an old serial lead, leaving a few inches of wire, identify wires to pins 2 & 3 and twist them together, insulation stripped of course.   If you are going to destroy an old lead you might want to check pins 2 & 3 are actually connected, if it is a moulded plug check pin to pin (2 will probably go to 3 and 3 will go to 2 at opposite ends -  a crossover lead)

Cheers

I have tried Video Option 1, 2 and 6, still the sound is poor when any type of speaker is selected except "NONE"

I have tried selecting 6000's front & 6000' rear (with a 6000 plugged into the rear sockets) - the speaker switches on (but sure no sound is coming out of it) when the selection is made and as soon as the menu is exited the speaker switches off again

I have tried changes in all the user and service menus - still no luck, could it possibly be because there is no ML link connected at the moment?

I can now get the PIN code menus, have bought a B&O IR receiver now

Regards,  Martin

The reference guide says:

"If you have only one set of speakers, set ‘Front’ to ‘None’ – NOT to your speaker type!"

Page 14.

Did you check this?

Ralf

Hi Ralf,   I missed that!  Mind at rest now but raised another question:  When "NONE" is selected, the SubWoofer YES / NO option isn't available.  Is this because this multiple speaker dialogue is about suround sound and not speaker matching?

In other words, if you have a Beolab 2 but no second pair of speakers, you must choose NONE and connect the Beolab 2 via the Powerlink off one of the front speaker output sockets, then daisy chain the end of line speaker out of the Beolab 2?  It works like this so sorry for wasting anyones time if this is obvious. 

My CTX CRT monitor died today so i coudn't alter settings to try sound performance with four speakers connected.  A Samsung 46" LED won't support the BS2 RGB, it has a slot for common interface though.

Do you think the reason why the single rear speaker i had connected (leaving only one connected to one of the front speaker sockets) shut down when the BS2 exited programming is because the BS2 knew there wasn't a second speaker connected to the other front socket?

Regards,  Martin

I did it ... so far.

Philips Brilliance 109P Monitor picked up for 5 Euro.

Connected the gender changer on the serial, installed the paperclip. First: nothing.... lot of tries etc... Then read through the service manual on this site - and found out that pin 2 and 3 are counted a little different than, let's say, usually.

So Beosystem 2 works connected to the CRT monitor.

Tomorrow I will pick-up a 42 inch Panasonic professial display (D6, just 852 x 480 px) and see how this will work using the serial connection.

Any hints on the service menu of the Panasonic, e.g. values that need to be adjusted?

Another issue: I have just 2 speakers I want to use with the screen and the beosystem 2 - a pair of Beolab 4500. I cannot choose this in the setup menu of the beosystem 2. Do I need to connect them as center speakers with a y-cable? Or can I omit the center and use the beolabs as fronts?

EDIT - just found out: "If you have only one set of speakers, connect these to the sockets marked FRONT." (reference book)

Thanks for your help!

Ralf

PS: If there is interest, I can make a photo, what to buy, etc. thread of setting up a beosystem 2 with a panasonic professional panel - once I succeed in doing it.... ;-)

Hi Ralf, just back on line myself with an AOC CRT, £5 me too from my friendly computer shop

The 9 pin d-sub is numbered correctly on mine, allways count from the reverse (wiring) of the socket / plug.  There are ususally tiny numbers against the holes / pins but i'mm too old now to read these without a magnifier.  I did find the VGA pinnouts were shown different on the service manual between versions BS2 MKII and MKIII. The MKIII uses a standard VGA pinnout configuration.

I have had this now for nearly three weeks and am beggining to be very impressed by it - all seems to work very well despite being told to expect horrendous lip synch issues.  With help from Peter and Stefan and continually looking back at what i've been told by them and you - i have managed to learn enough to check everything needed does work.

Looked at the service menu for the Plasma setup and daren't change anything in case the CRT stops working, have concluded i'm not going to get my Samsung LED to work unless i buy an expensive scaler or possibly a Common Interface card to convert 576P to one of the input formats the TV will handle.  I know i have seen a thread here giving the setting chosen for a given display, i would make sure your info is correct before changing in case you loose the menu ability!!

Didin't you tell me before about needing to select "none" if only one pair of speakers was connected, the FRONT bit is nearby!!!

Allthough i have no lip synch issues, i have had to make a 3500 in the same room, mounted above the Samsung, a link only product in the option setting so it doesn't come on with the 4000's when DTV is selected unless link is selected first.  If it's on the sound is via the ML and is out of synch with BS2 direct speaker outputs. 

I've tried adjusting the sound output delay in SKY services settings to as much as 200mS but no joy.  It doesn't add much if on anyway (i am not using the TV speakers either).  For the last time i hope,  i have not found a "fault" with my used BS2 - the unballanced speaker issue i first reported not understanding until you told me to select "NONE", was resolved by reading page 10 of the user guide.  I couldn't do this last week as the monitor died on me, just tried it, selected Beolab4000's as front speakers and YES for subwoofer.  Then selected 2 via the beo4 (list, speakers) for front speakers in stereo and subwoofer (Beolab 2).  All works fine and tested OK with two more 4000's connected temporarily to the rear speakers.

Sorry i don't know what the best match would be as an alternative for your 4500's, mine doesn't have that in the list either.

I think everytone will benefit from the knowledge base you suggest, a lot of is obvious now but when your'e faced with black box you can't even turn on it must be usefull to others to know how to get past the first hurdle.

Regards,  Martin