BOThom wrote:

I have successfully tried that setup. However, I understand from setting BS9000 in A.Option 0, this also disables the IR transceiver.

I thought you had an IR eye connected. 

BOThom wrote:

The issue is that controlling the BS9000 from the B&O App provides only a very few features (for me I can only switch on/off the BS9000, select source and play/pause/skip track of a CD. I cannot even change CD).

Actually I can change the CD playing, but I have to see if I use the Beoliving app or the B&o app. One or both have the option to choose  the number 1 to 6 to play the correspondent CD.

BOThom wrote:

Additionally, I attached my BG to the line-in of the BLC. I struggled from the app to select line-in source of the BLC

You have to make an adjustment in the settings. Go to the setting page of your Core in the app (man icon, products, Core, Configure, Beolink, Link to other products. Make the primiere link the BLC) Then go to: Content, Sources, Local list and check all products the Core should see so also the BS9000 CD and the BLC Line in.

If you start the Core in the app you can choose the Core sources and the BLC sources as local Core sources.

BOThom wrote:

Next, from the App Settings menu of the BLC, I changed "Products controlled by apps" to BLC with speakers (even though there are no speakers connected). Bo doing so I can now select line-in from the BCL (and sources available on the BS Core - but if I pick from a source from the Core, I can obviously not link the Core and BLC in order to play the music on the Core).

Reset this - solved with the remark here above.

BOThom wrote:

I have then tried to set it in A.Option 1, and by doing so I can now use my Beo4, even if there are no speakers connected to the BS9000.

Add an IR eye to the Core and put the BS9000 back in option 0. But note: you must have the right IR settings in the BLC and than all Beo4 command will go through the Core.

BOThom wrote:

I have successfully tried that setup. However, I understand from setting BS9000 in A.Option 0, this also disables the IR transceiver.

Carolpa wrote:

I thought you had an IR eye connected.

Not yet - but now I'd consider to find one. I believe they are being discontinued, but I can see they are still available in the second hand marked.

BOThom wrote:

The issue is that controlling the BS9000 from the B&O App provides only a very few features (for me I can only switch on/off the BS9000, select source and play/pause/skip track of a CD. I cannot even change CD).

Carolpa wrote:

Actually I can change the CD playing, but I have to see if I use the Beoliving app or the B&o app. One or both have the option to choose  the number 1 to 6 to play the correspondent CD.

I use the B&O App, and from here I cannot change CD - only tracks on the present CD being played. I recall from another post on this forum, that the Beoliving App provides the opportunity to also change CD. I find it strange that this is not possible within the B&O App. In order to use the Beoliving app I need a Beolink Gateway/Beoliving Intelligence, and clearly, it's not worth the money just so I can change CDs from the app ;)

BOThom wrote:

Additionally, I attached my BG to the line-in of the BLC. I struggled from the app to select line-in source of the BLC

Carolpa wrote:

You have to make an adjustment in the settings. Go to the setting page of your Core in the app (man icon, products, Core, Configure, Beolink, Link to other products. Make the primiere link the BLC) Then go to: Content, Sources, Local list and check all products the Core should see so also the BS9000 CD and the BLC Line in.

If you start the Core in the app you can choose the Core sources and the BLC sources as local Core sources.

Wow, that worked - thanks a lot! I was not aware of the first steps (Man Icon, etc..). I also have a BeoSound 35, and I have carried out the same steps for that.

BOThom wrote:

Next, from the App Settings menu of the BLC, I changed "Products controlled by apps" to BLC with speakers (even though there are no speakers connected). Bo doing so I can now select line-in from the BCL (and sources available on the BS Core - but if I pick from a source from the Core, I can obviously not link the Core and BLC in order to play the music on the Core).

Carolpa wrote:

Reset this - solved with the remark here above.

Done!

BOThom wrote:

I have then tried to set it in A.Option 1, and by doing so I can now use my Beo4, even if there are no speakers connected to the BS9000.

Carolpa wrote:

Add an IR eye to the Core and put the BS9000 back in option 0. But note: you must have the right IR settings in the BLC and than all Beo4 command will go through the Core.

Since the Beosound 35 have an integrated IR-eye, I have tried your suggestion to that. I guess it all have to be managed from the IR-mapping menu of the BLC. But it seems I can only map towards NL, not ML (unless I have completely misinterpreted the mapping-behavior). I will do some more trial and error.
So, when I press CD on Beo4 and point it towards Beosound 35, it will play from Spotify. And if I press A.Aux, it will play from its own line-in. And if I press Radio, it will play from TuneIn.
If I start the CD-playback from the app, I can afterwards successfully manage the BS9000 with the Beo4 via BS35 (pause, play, skip track and even change CD).

I do have an Essence remote connected via Bluetooth to the Core.
I understand the Essence remote also have some IR integrated? It is possible at all to use the Beo4 to the Essence remote, and then that will replicate via Bluetooth to the Core? Or do I have to find an IR-eye and connect directly to the Core?

BOThom wrote:

I use the B&O App, and from here I cannot change CD - only tracks on the present CD being played.

Correct! Only the Beoliving app has this feature.

BOThom wrote:

I find it strange that this is not possible within the B&O App.

I agree.

BOThom wrote:

Since the Beosound 35 have an integrated IR-eye, I have tried your suggestion to that. I guess it all have to be managed from the IR-mapping menu of the BLC. But it seems I can only map towards NL, not ML

The idea of this setup that everything in NL controlled. So the ML sources are mapped to NL and not the other way around. As long the BS9000 doesn't have speakers connected or there are no more ML devices ML connected (other than the BLC) to the BS9000, this is the right solution.

BOThom wrote:

I also have a BeoSound 35, and I have carried out the same steps for that.

I would do this only for ONE NL device (the CD is then only one source in the complete NL. If you do it twice CD are two, one connected to the BS35 one to the Core. I do not think you will get conflicts but just to keep it simpler). Because of the BS35 IR and your preference to use a Beo4 you could leave it set on the BS35.

In the BLC "Experiende mapped to NL" you check the CD (and if you need the Radio or AUX). Note: you can rename the "Name used on NL" to BS9000 CD and BS9000 Aux, BS9000 Radio (or anything you like)

On the IR mapping page you set the ML IR command. For the CD - "NL product name" = the BLC - "NL source"  = BS9000 CD (if you renamed it to this). Then the BS9000 CD should start when a cd command is given to the BS35.

For other sources choose your settings.

 

My experience learned that I hardly use remotes, beside the Halo for audio and the BR1 for Beovisions, anymore. Almost everything is done by using the B&o app or Beoliving app (mostly the latter)

 

 

Carolpa wrote:

I would do this only for ONE NL device (the CD is then only one source in the complete NL. If you do it twice CD are two, one connected to the BS35 one to the Core. I do not think you will get conflicts but just to keep it simpler). Because of the BS35 IR and your preference to use a Beo4 you could leave it set on the BS35.

I agree, it should be sufficient to just add the BLC on one device (I can still see it from both devices). Actually, even if I don't add the CD and line-in from the BLC in the Local list for each device in the B&O App, I can still pick the sources, both for BS35 and Core. But it works, and I'm very pleased for the feedback!

Carolpa wrote:

In the BLC "Experiende mapped to NL" you check the CD (and if you need the Radio or AUX). Note: you can rename the "Name used on NL" to BS9000 CD and BS9000 Aux, BS9000 Radio (or anything you like)

I have only checked CD, and renamed it to BS9000 CD, which makes sense to me.

Carolpa wrote:

On the IR mapping page you set the ML IR command. For the CD - "NL product name" = the BLC - "NL source"  = BS9000 CD (if you renamed it to this). Then the BS9000 CD should start when a cd command is given to the BS35.

For other sources choose your settings.

This doesn't work for me, unfortunately. Somehow, the BS35 only obey the Beo4 for its own sources. Only when I have chosen to play CD in the B&O App, I can then control the playback with the Beo4 (and the Essence remote for the Core). But it's a very nice advantage that the control goes that far through the various systems.

Carolpa wrote:

My experience learned that I hardly use remotes, beside the Halo for audio and the BR1 for Beovisions, anymore. Almost everything is done by using the B&o app or Beoliving app (mostly the latter)

I do like the Essence remote and the B&O App. But when it comes to volume control, the Beo4 gives instant access. Sometimes the Essence remote drops the connection, and it takes many seconds for it to reconnect. And it takes time to unlock the phone, open the app, and wait a couple of seconds before it has updated the connection to the systems.
I have however considered to buy a Halo.

Another question regarding the line-in volume level on the BLC:
I find the volume to be very low when I play music from the turntable (remind: The BG6500 is connected to the BLC. Not speakers connected). So, I've tried to reach the settings page of the BLC, and under "power link" are two options for adjusting the line-in level. I have tried to adjust each one, but I don’t hear any significant results in the volume. My question is then: Is the default line-in volume only applicable when BeoLab speakers are connected directly to the BLC?