Lunatic at work:

bayerische wrote:

Lunatic at work:

link

And his salary is ????????? 😳

vikinger wrote:

bayerische wrote:

Lunatic at work:

link

And his salary is ????????? 😳

Interestingly only about 1,3M USD a year, but he's got a bit of shares. 😂

But honestly, looking at him, he's a disgrace to MS. Even if I'm no fan of MS, they have done a huge bit of work for Personal computing, and business computing, and having a CEO such as Ballmer is beyond reason... 

Flappo The Grate wrote:

but you ARE in IT..

I'm in IT, too.  So?

There is exactly zero point in a Mac vs PC *hardware* debate these days.  The Mac is, basically, a PC with standardized and high end parts.  This is why you can run Windows natively and it works perfectly.  You could easily build a PC with exactly the same parts.  What will set it apart, hardware-wise, is the Mac specific ROM and the pretty case.

The biggest difference is the operating system.  Whereas Windows still has DOS as its carriage and still is held back by the same old problems it always had despite the addition of years and functionality and colors ("lipstick on a pig" is the official term, I think), Apple bet the farm and completely recreated their OS from scratch based on FreeBSD Unix and it paid off.  They created a far superior system than they originally had which left MS in the dust, software technology-wise.  Windows will never be as good unless MS buys Red Hat or some other Linux company and uses it as the base of a new Windows OS.

Personally, I'm a Mac fan to the point where I would crawl into a hole and become the Unibomber if they ever stopped being made.  Also, I think if you have $2000 to spend on a pre-built computer and you don't buy a Mac then you're stupid with a capital S unless you have an exact, precise reason why you must have a PC running windows.  But it's based solely on the fact that: 1) a device that runs Windows + MacOS is better than an equally priced device that runs only Windows and 2) a device that uses top quality materials is better than an equally priced device with inferior materials and design.  But beyond those two reasons, and the quality of the OS, there's really no other difference.

For the record: B&O, Mac, 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser Troop Carrier because I like the Outback and no German or other high dollar city SUV is going to take you far out there.  And the Troopies made after 1996 no longer have leaf springs which affects their off-road handling.

soundproof wrote:

Akio Morita of SONY had B&O in his home, to challenge his engineers.

Steve Ballmer is simply not very good at his job. A former Microsoft exec writes in NYTimes today: Microsoft's Creative Destruction.

Definitely not the best horse for B&O to hitch its cart to: link

Japan: Akio Morita and Sony’, though from mid 1980s, is a book well worth reading, too.

Interesting article, they usually are when about leading companies and the top people behind them. I remember an equally interesting link in Fortune on Steve Jobs a few years ago – not everything’s so rosy regarding the gentleman, though Fortune also gave him the ‘title’ of a CEO of the decade last year … Of course, nobody’s perfect (not even a genius which Steve Jobs no doubt is).

Regarding the other Steve not being very good at his job (rather different one than the first Steve's), well, it’s a big, tough and rather insane world out there … perhaps the shareholders find he fits the bill. As we witness the malaise in banking/finance (only to begin with), it is a question if it at all is possible for any human to actually steer companies of such a size/complexity as those behemoths incl. Microsoft – or, realistically, pretend to expect it from such an individual. I don’t think so, but this is an entirely different discussion, anyway.

Also, it would really be a luxury for any company to be able to do business only with those it ‘likes’ sharing the same set of business/ethical values with them etc. Even changing a partner on a very personal level is easier said than done… I know you’re not saying it is, but still could not resist. (Btw, I find the story about the relation between B&O and Microsoft being based on personal contacts rather hard to swallow.)

Hello All

I know ive joined the conversation late:

Volvo  check (you can stop laughing now!!!! I like it)

B&O check

Apple check

And how excited am I that my beoport now works as Anders has written new software.. Guess I'll never be able to update my itunes software again!!!

David Coyne

So for me goes..

B&O Check

Apple Check

Audi Check (But also my beloved SUV Honda CRV) :-)

i'm quite aware of the history of the mac , having gone through 7.1 to 10.6 and all the os 8 , & 9 variations in between and agree that apart from a few roms , the case , a few asic's and the os they're very similar

i just didn't like that guy's pontificating attitude , typical It staff , who basically fear for their jobs when a macs introduced as it makes all their 'support' redundant - very defensive attitude - and all that drivel about elitist users annoys me no end - pc users are just as bad with their bizarre tricked out gaming rigs

anyway enough 'flaming' or whatever it's called round here , ali i wanted from the original post was for bno to recognise that there are a lot of mac users with disposable income that would buy more of their kit if it interfaced easier with a mac

if they choose to ignore that potential market - it's their loss

Or to put another, fine point to it, which is relevant to the Home Entertainment needs that B&O produces for.

PCs are associated with work, and are often forced upon you by the workplace. PC users show an increasing desire to pick Mac's for the home, as they provide effortless handling of video, music, photos, movies, downloads -- and easily connect to the home entertainment centre(s).

At some point, you really do want to just shut down your computer and enjoy - one of the reasons why so many are using the AppleTV as their media centre.

Power-users who configure Mac minis etc. will always be in the minority, people want plug&play functionality, and that's what the ATV provides. (Remember the relatives who couldn't set the clock&date on the VHS-players ... they were still enjoying VHS-playback, just couldn't get the automatic record to ever work.)

i think the ipad's going to have a massive impact on the industry , from my own experience , my mother who has problems working the kettle and who hasn't got a clue how to turn a computer on let alone use one is unusually interested in a pad like device that requires just finger presses and no actual os interaction , the os and file system are hidden as tbh they're just not needed anymore , she actually wants one , so that's a win !😎😁

i really think it's the start of something big !!