bno should concentrate on apple users not windows ; here's the proof : 90% high end marketshare

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Dave wrote:

Well i just bought a new imac, and it reminds me alot of b&o for it's innovative design and functions.

 

there is a clear comparison in the design and quality between these brands

I think what people gloss over is that there are brands other than Dell/HP/Lenovo/Toshiba in the market who make products that leave Apple's build quality and design for dead.  I'm a rare exception to this thread having gone from exclusively Apple products to going to well built quality made PC's and Windows 7 (I do have the German car though).  I think that B&O know loud and clear their customers want better Apple integration...my god you guys scream loud enough about it every day here!

i wasn't trying to start a mac vs pc flamewar , my op just shows that people with disposable income ( buying for the home ) seem to gravitate towards macs and so bno should realise this ( i'm sure they do now ) and act accordingly , many times price seems to be a factor in the windows world and bno don't want to even think about entering that market - or they really ARE finished

honestly , i couldn't care less what computer people use and as for being a fan boy - some of apple's products aren't very good at all imo - i've had at least 5 ipods over the years and every one's gone kaput due to battery problems , my ipod touch only lasted 18 months , not very impressed

This thread really isn't about Apple versus Microsoft, and their platform, but about marketing. And as such the flaming that broke out above is quite unnecessary, if we're to address the real issue.

Xavieritzman (a namesake - my middle name is Xavier) put his finger on it, by indicating that by previous management's reasoning, B&O itself would be a pretty uninteresting market to cater to. In fact, as evidenced by the number of other brands that wished to associate themselves with B&O through the years, we know B&O users comprise a very attractive market.

A monumental mistake was committed when B&O failed to understand what segment Apple addresses: architects, designers, musicians, music producers, filmmakers, television producers, people in graphics, advertising, writers - bla, bla, bla. But it's the same market that B&O appealed to in its heyday. (There's a reason why you find the Beolab 5000 in A Clockwork Orange.)

From the early 90s, Apple has been a partner of the music and film industries, co-developing products to fit with professional needs. Just the Core-Audio capabilities alone should be reason for a company such as B&O to have exploited this: Do you want the same quality that film and music professionals rely upon, through your B&O?

What better carriers of your message/your product? I've seen U2 members in Ireland each with a Mac in their lap; by now it's almost tiresome how often Mac's appear in movies and tv-programs. After the introduction of the iPhone, Apple's caught the public imagination - and B&O could have been part of it from the moment iTunes/iPods were launched.

Instead we got the BeoSound 2, with no drivers for Macs. And where B&O had to scramble when irate Mac-owners informed Struer "Why the **** can't I buy a BeoSound 2, are you crazy?"

Water under the bridge, but the fact that it's still not a priority is simply not acceptable. 

What's B&O about: superior sound and image, conveniently accessible throughout your home.

Apple in A/V: Superior acquisition, storage, retrieval and playback of digital content.

The target market overlap between the two brands is strong, which isn't to say that there aren't a lot of very interesting, capable and wealthy people who use PCs. But B&O mgt totally ignored the Apple-user market, and the Apple-platform capabilities. The most serious consequence being that B&O peripherals seem old and clunky, when they aren't, it's the media handling that's out of date. And the brand is suffering as a consequence.
Imagine being a BeoMedia owner, and then checking out an Apple-TV ... which is  controlled with a remote that has six button functions.

There should be a Fast Track Mission Urgent B&O/Apple Integration Team at B&O ... there isn't.

 

XavierItzmann wrote:

Peter wrote:

However plenty of owners also have PCs and this would probably still be a healthy majority.

 

What you say is possible, no doubt.  But I took the time to go back through this thread and see who actually declared what is it that they use or own.  Here is my tally of those who declared, and I apologize if I missed or misinterpreted anyone.

Soundproof - Mac

Lee - Mac + PC

Cooldude - Mac

Burantek - Mac

Beocool - Mac

Rwst - Mac

Jkl002 - Mac

Vikinger - Mac

Flapper - Mac

Superdario - Mac

PhilLondon - Mac

Puncher - PC

 

BTW, we also found out that German cars are strongly preferred around this crop of self-selected Bang & Olufsen enthusiasts, with a Swedish automobile outlier here and there 🙂

Now, the onus on B&O management is to answer: at at time when some of your most enthusiastic and loyal customers prefer Apple products, what are you going to do about it?

i use a italian car, because of the styling and the engine... ;-) but i like also german cars like bmw/audi and i've created advertising for bmw sauber f1 team.

XavierItzmann wrote:

Peter wrote:

However plenty of owners also have PCs and this would probably still be a healthy majority.

 

What you say is possible, no doubt.  But I took the time to go back through this thread and see who actually declared what is it that they use or own.  Here is my tally of those who declared, and I apologize if I missed or misinterpreted anyone.

Soundproof - Mac

Lee - Mac + PC

Cooldude - Mac

Burantek - Mac

Beocool - Mac

Rwst - Mac

Jkl002 - Mac

Vikinger - Mac

Flapper - Mac

Superdario - Mac

PhilLondon - Mac

Puncher - PC

 

BTW, we also found out that German cars are strongly preferred around this crop of self-selected Bang & Olufsen enthusiasts, with a Swedish automobile outlier here and there 🙂

Now, the onus on B&O management is to answer: at at time when some of your most enthusiastic and loyal customers prefer Apple products, what are you going to do about it?

You forgot me! -Mac all the way.

XavierItzmann wrote:

Peter wrote:

However plenty of owners also have PCs and this would probably still be a healthy majority.

 

What you say is possible, no doubt.  But I took the time to go back through this thread and see who actually declared what is it that they use or own.  Here is my tally of those who declared, and I apologize if I missed or misinterpreted anyone.

Soundproof - Mac

Lee - Mac + PC

Cooldude - Mac

Burantek - Mac

Beocool - Mac

Rwst - Mac

Jkl002 - Mac

Vikinger - Mac

Flapper - Mac

Superdario - Mac

PhilLondon - Mac

Puncher - PC

 

BTW, we also found out that German cars are strongly preferred around this crop of self-selected Bang & Olufsen enthusiasts, with a Swedish automobile outlier here and there 🙂

Now, the onus on B&O management is to answer: at at time when some of your most enthusiastic and loyal customers prefer Apple products, what are you going to do about it?

Mac and PC at home. (Mac is the machine of choice: PC for certain software applications only.) Used to be PC only at office. I quite like the idea of being a Saab/Swedish outlier! 🙂

I confess to having 4 Macs myself! PC at work but this is enforced! 

My B&O Icons:

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Mac at home and PC in the office. Like Peter the PC is enforced!

bill gates had a mac in the office and at home and when he was at ms they were a force to be reckoned with

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steve ballmer , who has been at the helm for the last few years,  not only hates apple he banned his own kids from having ipods or iphones !!

and the stock has fallen 50% as long as he's been in charge

somehow i don't think that's a coincidence

soory about that post - ** fanboy alert **

 

😁

Akio Morita of SONY had B&O in his home, to challenge his engineers.


Steve Ballmer is simply not very good at his job. A former Microsoft exec writes in NYTimes today: Microsoft's Creative Destruction.

Definitely not the best horse for B&O to hitch its cart to: 

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