Hi Craig, Thankyou for the heads up...it is under 2 hrs from me too....these listings are always a bit of a gamble I find....if it is just the matter of putting a cart on it it would be great but I am always concerned it will be a lot more wrong than that....Hyperthetically Craig,if it went for sensible money, would it be something I could ask you to have a look at and hopefullyput right for me please? Do you  repair other peoples vintage units? Realise this could be a money pit, but at sensible money this could be a reasonable buy ...Also it is on the way to your neck of the woods I think....Are you in Yarm, NEast? If it is something you would prefer not to do, absolutely no problem at all, thought I would ask as you never know....it will probably go for silly money anyway....had my eye on the 4000 on Ebay now at £1995.00 been on for some time now but his price has fallen over the last year....Why didn`t I get this darned TT years ago when they were not so astronomical??? The techy side of these tables is not my strongest point, they do seem very "engineered" to what I am used to ...I think that it has been this factor that probably held me back in the past from getting one....as I think about it now, if I knew someone who knew the tables and was trustworthy and was reasonably close by, it may be worth me finally pulling the trigger on one....lol....thats alot that has to right I think...lol....Hope you dont mind me asking Craig...many thanks again....Tony...

If you can deliver it to me in person I will sort it for you....couriers wreak havoc on these decks and will cause more damage, have a punt at it. I can use one of my cartridges to test it prior to your purchasing one if your successful....good luck!

I have a Beomaster 4401 as well as both Beogram 4000 and 4004 - (We shall ignore the 4001...) The best speakers are M100.2s. Just had the 4401 and M100.2s refurbished. I have had S120s - they are a really good speakers but don't have the bass of the M100. I have lent them to a friend who uses them with a BC9500.

The 4000 is a wonderful deck - beautifully made and hideously over engineered! (Though not as much as the Beocord 5000!) This was made by B&O and they then made the 4002 which vastly simplified the 4000 and produced sound almost exactly the same. Don't get me wrong, I love the 4000 and it is my second favourite Beogram but it is complex and when it fails, it is likely to be costly. Having said that Craig is a total star and I have no doubt of his abilities.

The Beomaster 4400 is a wonderful receiver - I have owned almost all of the range and I rate this one the highest, even above the 8000 of which I have had two. The 4400 is the one I kept (well 4401 but it is the same!) because it is just very musical. You can use with S45.2s though they are not rated to cope with them but I think they are a better speakers than S75s. If you have room, look for M100s though - you will then be using the speakers designed for the system and they work very well together. S120s are very good but I find the tweeter shrieks at high volumes, something the earlier range did not do. The S75s though have a less controlled bass so it is what you prefer.

The Beolab/Beomaster 5000 system is great though the 4400 is realistically a better system now - I do run one with my favourite Beogram - a 3000 Thorens with 12" arm - the bass is just better than any other Beogram though I do have a bespoke cartridge which helps. I would suggest if you get a Beogram 4000 that you look at getting a decent cartridge - most originals will have suspension that has hardened and the stylus will be worn. Personally, I am less keen on the Soundsmith cartridges - they have a more modern sound and are excellent but I prefer the B&O ones and have had a number refurbished.

And to finish, Craig is a great guy and knows what he is talking about! Best wishes.

 

Hi Peter and thankyou for your advice....I have some m120.2s and s45.2s I can refoam and use, and will now have a look into your suggestion of m100.2s....I have heard of the M100s but not the .2 version ! I will definitely investigate those....btw I have also been thinking about the beovox 3800 as a possible match too...but will def look into those M100s..........yes, the BG4000 does seem to be  a double edged sword ....get a good one and you are off to a strong start...get a bad one and it could be a money pit.....despite its appeal , I know this deck is way out of my tinkering comfort zone and that worries me...also , there is the lack of any local servicing options if/when anything does go wrong...its a bit of a worry ! But Craig has very kindly been giving me his advice and thoughts and I am very grateful indeed....Thankyou for the advice Peter and fingers crossed......Tony...

Hi Craig...just thought I would let you know I did not go for the 4000....I knew it would go to the high hundreds but not knowing what might be wrong with it and the thought of a potential money pit just put me right off...this is what has been happening to me over the years with this model...I probably need one that is properley sorted,  or as near as, from the start....Got a message from Peter earlier, he suggested a pair of M100.2s for the BM4400...I know of the M100s but never knew of the .2`s...will sort my spare set of 45.2, just need refoaming, and try them out...while I am at that, I may as well re do my m120.2s at the same time...I need to thin some of my speakers out....but will do some digging on the m100s....and my wait for a 4000 continues...lol...cheers Craig.......

I would be open to lending you some bits but they would need picking up and I do live in the very North of England - then you can decide if you really want to go down this path. Not looking to sell though.

Hi Peter, That is a very kind offer....I am already determined to finish my collection with a 4000....I have waited quite a few years so far so will wait and see what happens...of all my pieces , the bg4000 is the one I knew would probably be the hardest to choose out of what is out there...its the biggest outlay and the one with potentially the biggest problems if it goes wrong....I am sure one will come along which ticks my boxes...but thankyou again for your kind offer...it is appreciated....many thanks....

I checked out the BG4000 recently advertised above on ebay and was quite surprised to see it made over a thousand pounds.....not bad for a sight unseen with issues, a testament to the rising interest in vinyl and the equipment required to listen to it. I may have to increase my home insurance policy to keep pace ;¬)

And thank you Peter for your kind words....your a gent.

Craig

This is the M100.2 - slightly different drive units - I think they are all rosewood - best big speaker I have had until I got Beolab 5s!