expoman wrote:

I know the Beogram 6500 and 7000 had the phone preamp built in.  Where there any others?  

As nobody else has answered that question...
Yes - the Beogram 4500 also had the preamp.

Steffen,

Thanks for this info.  The 4500 does come up for sale more than the 6500 or 7000.  The price is more reasonable as well.

Any mm preamp with RCAs will work between a Beogram and a Beosound 9000.  You will need (two) adapters, one in and one out.  5 pin DIN females < 2 RCAs. 

And, if I may add, the BG 3500.

Welcome to Beoworld and congrats for digging up a 7 year-old thread!

I tried many Beograms (and still own "few of them") but Beogram 4000 is for me the best one. Mine is in everyday usage (at the moment with MMC 20EN) and it sounds superb.

Yes, I know, many would say that the BG800x is better but not for me, specially not designwise.  I don't really like the BG800x series. The Beogram 4000 is the best "package", design and sound. But that's just my opinion.

One more Beogram which is my favorite is the Beogram 1500 (the old type: 5208, one with the build-in amp). I gave mine to my brother together with the pair of Beovox 800 and he couldn't believe what nice sound this set is able to produce 🙂

For me the best looking one is still the white Beogram 1202. Pure elegance and simplicity!

Theomaster

P.S. Yes BG3000 Thorens is probably the best sounding Beogram but having "only" the plint and tonearm made by B&O, it is for me out of comparison ...

The best I've heard (and own!) remains the Beogram 8002 with an Axel-rebuilt MMC2.

Also, there has been mention of the Thorens version, but the Acoustical version of the Beogram 3000 is no slouch.

chartz wrote:

Welcome to Beoworld and congrats for digging up a 7 year-old thread!

Jacques

In meinen opinion the best Players are.

beogram 4000

like 4002/40004/6000 too.

beogram 6006/8000/8002 all nearly the same.

the Beogram 5000 is an excellent Player too.

I Never had a Beogram 3000 Thornes, but should be a really Good one.

the Otters i have and i like them all !