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Thanks a lot for these great and accurate explanations.

Do not worry, I am still planning to buy B&O device. My only concern is that C7 lacks fluidity, especially compared to Sony (same panel, with their own technology). This is something I could notice watching live TV.

I agree. The LG motion is not as good as the Sony. I got the Eclipse now for a long time and Im still waiting for the new FW update to correct the issue.

I did not know about this expected update. I hope it will solve the issue, because apart from this, Eclipse is a very nice product. let us know if you notice a difference. All the best for you !

Apart from this, are you satisfied with your purchase?

tigerisak wrote:

I agree. The LG motion is not as good as the Sony. I got the Eclipse now for a long time and Im still waiting for the new FW update to correct the issue.

I have both an Eclipse and a C7. The C7 has got the update and i can tell you that it’s not really that big of a difference.

The motion processing of the C7 (and Eclipse) is not as bad as the ongoing debate might lead you to think. Bad settings will cause motion blur, but correct set up, it’s very nice and the A1 is not much, if at all, better.

Perhaps for very compressed and old material, Sony’s engine does a better job “upscaling” But when watching Blu-Rays and newer content, the LG does a very fine job if set up correctly. Both with and without the software update.

So don’t sit back and wait fir miracles, it won’t happen. If you want a better picture on your Eclipse, call a proffessional calibrator, THAT makes a HUGE difference!

Just my 2 cents.

The problem when watching content from Apple TV or the native app is that the content itself is mainly recorded in 23.976 fps and the TV is upscaling it to 50 hz. When in true cinema the picture only shows 24 fps and is in my opinion not as smooth as the 50 hz motion handling the Sony performs. 

When watching the World Cup in 50fps and 4K the LG showed us what it could do. But with content of 1080p and 23.976 fps it doesn't really does the job in my opinion. The sound and design is amazing though. 

fu21 wrote:

yes.

And twice on Sundays

🙂

mrCTE wrote:

Good man fu21! 

Do ignore the angry negativity, it’s no wonder this community feels less and less relevant. 

Maybe B&O need their own Discourse community...

It was a joke!

I find the lack of humour makes it even less relevant.

 

Well there we are different.

I would never “upscale” 24fps films.

I think they are shot in 24p and should be viewed like that. Where the motion handling comes to use, is with tv shows, documentaries etc. and yes, there the Sony might have a slight upper hand, but to my eyes at least, it’s to little to affect my user experience.

I’ve turned ALL of the processing off on both my Eclipse and my C7 and i would probably do the same if i had an A1, perhaps for broadcast tv, i would apply a bit, But never for watching movies.

It handles football matches very well too, i think.

tigerisak wrote:

The problem when watching content from Apple TV or the native app is that the content itself is mainly recorded in 23.976 fps and the TV is upscaling it to 50 hz. When in true cinema the picture only shows 24 fps and is in my opinion not as smooth as the 50 hz motion handling the Sony performs.

When watching the World Cup in 50fps and 4K the LG showed us what it could do. But with content of 1080p and 23.976 fps it doesn't really does the job in my opinion. The sound and design is amazing though.

Exactly. And now the Apple TV has finally the option to automatically switch the TV frame rate in order to match the one of the content you are watching.

 

Fidse wrote:
Well there we are different.

 

I would never “upscale” 24fps films.

 

I think they are shot in 24p and should be viewed like that. Where the motion handling comes to use, is with tv shows, documentaries etc. and yes, there the Sony might have a slight upper hand, but to my eyes at least, it’s to little to affect my user experience.

 

 

I’ve turned ALL of the processing off on both my Eclipse and my C7 and i would probably do the same if i had an A1, perhaps for broadcast tv, i would apply a bit, But never for watching movies.

 

 

It handles football matches very well too, i think.

 

tigerisak wrote:

 

The problem when watching content from Apple TV or the native app is that the content itself is mainly recorded in 23.976 fps and the TV is upscaling it to 50 hz. When in true cinema the picture only shows 24 fps and is in my opinion not as smooth as the 50 hz motion handling the Sony performs.

 

When watching the World Cup in 50fps and 4K the LG showed us what it could do. But with content of 1080p and 23.976 fps it doesn't really does the job in my opinion. The sound and design is amazing though.

 

 

 

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