Emil Jensen wrote:

There is a lot of software changes, the settings menu, how it turn off and its own adaptive light control.

KMA wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

 

There is a lot of software changes, the settings menu, how it turn off and its own adaptive light control.

 

 

Ambient light sensor is a standard feature of the LG C7. There is no B&O picture processing in the Eclipse.

The sensor is in the Soundcenter, so it is not the same.

Puncher wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

There is a lot of software changes, the settings menu, how it turn off and its own adaptive light control.

And a standard back panel would not work, as your cannot hide the cables, as your can with the Eclipse, and not being able to do that, is not very B&O. Also the plastic grill behind it, matches B&O speakers. 

I know we talk a lot about the similarities, but I would say that a SONY Oled compared to a LG OLED, is much more comparable then a B&O Oled to a LG Oled

I've said before, I'm suspicious about how many of these menus are HDMI overlays applied in the sound bar, including the light sensor. If this is indeed software within the panel, why on earth would you do it in a way that wasn't flashable from a standard tv? I've been an engineer for over 35years and I can honestly tell you that common sense is priceless and yet so many bright young things are completely devoid!

I've mentioned the replaceable back cover, as a tidy-upper behind the t.v. you decide if the mould tool is worth the outlay.

I do not know if you have tried the settings menu in the Eclipse, but it is defiantly not a overlay, and there is a bunch of other features that a not in stock LG. If B&O would have made overlay menu, it would work as bad as a MARANTZ receiver and so on. The Eclipse feels like a complete tv, not two component put together.

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Emil Jensen wrote:

I do not know if you have tried the settings menu in the Eclipse, but it is defiantly not a overlay, and there is a bunch of other features that a not in stock LG. If B&O would have made overlay menu, it would work as bad as a MARANTZ receiver and so on. The Eclipse feels like a complete tv, not two component put together.

See my point about anything extra being anything other than a software update over a standard c7.

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moxxey wrote:

Not really? You need a seamless way to drop in a panel in to the soundbar to make it look like a B&O TV. You can't just take a C7 and plonk it in a 'soundbar' and then charge £10K.

Of course, B&O might have been better producing a standalone soundbar, but whatever they did, it still wouldn't have looked like an elegant design - every TV is different. Even the Sony X1 is a custom OLED panel.

The issue with B&O is simply this: they don't sell enough TVs. They might have committed to 2000 LG panels with the custom case and it's just taken far longer to shift the current stock. Whereas the Sony X1 probably sells this monthly, worldwide.

I mentioned the problem with the productions numbers in another thread. i did never understand  that B&O didn't make different "lines" with the same panels (inclusive an entry line). One panel , the same possibilities and technik in different materials and sound options. Alone with their great stands even a "cheap" B&O would have been profitable. Systems are going to be increased - more, let's say,  beolab 17 would have been sold.

It is important, that B&O has  av-systems and speakers which are reference class and for most people out of range, but....

In my eyes it was a failure to think, that many people buy an 40" B&O, if they pay the same for a 55" Loewe (i even don't mention the yearly price rductions of the "big players").B&O has lost the middle class and this class was responsible for the number of pieces. Now they are very exclusive with all disadvantages.

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Emil Jensen wrote:

The sensor is in the Soundcenter, so it is not the same.

So how are you so sure the ambient light compensation is not applied to the HDMI stream?

Puncher wrote:

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Emil Jensen wrote:

The sensor is in the Soundcenter, so it is not the same.

So how are you so sure the ambient light compensation is not applied to the HDMI stream?

Hmm. that is a good question as they are only connected with HDMI, so It have too.

But regardless of that, I will bet that the generel software is stored on the TV.

But okay I am no expert, have you seen a walkthrough of the menu of the Eclipse? if you can see something I can't please in light me, I am interested in knowing the truth.

Or I could test it, if I pull the HDMI out, and the menu is still there?

Emil Jensen wrote:

Puncher wrote:

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Emil Jensen wrote:

The sensor is in the Soundcenter, so it is not the same.

So how are you so sure the ambient light compensation is not applied to the HDMI stream?

Hmm. that is a good question as they are only connected with HDMI, so It have too.

But regardless of that, I will bet that the generel software is stored on the TV.

 

But okay I am no expert, have you seen a walkthrough of the menu of the Eclipse? if you can see something I can't please in light me, I am interested in knowing the truth.

Or I could test it, if I pull the HDMI out, and the menu is still there?

My point was that (if it isnt already) it could have been done that way.

Peter Pan wrote:

Fidse wrote:

LG has made a USB stick you can plug into your OLED screen, and that way make it WISA compatible.
You just choose WISA in the “audio out” settings, and the sound plays through your Beolabs 🙂

 

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Sure it is on a side note in this thread (which is about the Eclipse).

But apart from the stick being used 3-4 years ago with some test LG tv’s in Struer, there has not been much talk about this solution.

They were introduced in 2015: