The question is would you see the difference between the old and the newer panel ...

Hiort wrote:

Yes you can.

Not as elegant integration as with a Beovision, but you can.

Actually you’ll, more or less, only be missing out on the BR1.

LG has made a USB stick you can plug into your OLED screen, and that way make it WISA compatible. You just choose WISA in the “audio out” settings, and the sound plays through your Beolabs 🙂

Fidse wrote:

LG has made a USB stick you can plug into your OLED screen, and that way make it WISA compatible. You just choose WISA in the “audio out” settings, and the sound plays through your Beolabs

Interesting

I still prefer Loewe’s menu system - it’s more Beo-ish.

I wonder if Loewe are getting the latest panels ...and Sony as well maybe ?

Fidse wrote:

Actually you’ll, more or less, only be missing out on the BR1.

LG has made a USB stick you can plug into your OLED screen, and that way make it WISA compatible. You just choose WISA in the “audio out” settings, and the sound plays through your Beolabs

Neat 🙂

Fidse wrote:

Hiort wrote:

Yes you can.

Not as elegant integration as with a Beovision, but you can.

Actually you’ll, more or less, only be missing out on the BR1.

LG has made a USB stick you can plug into your OLED screen, and that way make it WISA compatible. You just choose WISA in the “audio out” settings, and the sound plays through your Beolabs 🙂

If this was really so, there would be little reason to buy an Eclipse.

What you will miss out is pretty much descibed here:

link

This should explain something about the difference between BeoLabs connected to a BV source and a non-B&O:

link

As for the dongle - I am not aware that it is on the market. If you know where to buy it, please tell us!

And I am not sure either that LG made it - originally it was used in Struer for test reasons a couple of years ago.

However, if you just want a set of active B&O active speakers along with an OLED screen, it surely will be possible....

.....the right cables or the WiSA Transmitter/the S8 hub solution would do the job.

But you loose the benefits of the B&O-specific sound engine, the integrated center channel and the streaming capacities/NL(Core).....

....and of course the simplicity of controlling all with one remote, the BROne.

MM

 

nico vercammen wrote:

The question is would you see the difference between the old and the newer panel ...

I doubt that as well.

But when paying premium I would expect the latest panel regardless.

Puncher wrote:

Peter Pan wrote:

Copied from the thread of my review of Eclipse on FlatpanelsDK, where I have written the following:
There has been some speculation about the possibility of upgrading Eclipse with a newer panel or that
Eclipse should be updated from the B & Os page to include a 2018 panel. From a reliable source we have that
Eclipse will not be updated neither this year nor next year. The cost of letting LG rebuild a new one model to fit
in Eclipse both hardware and software is simply too big for it to pay themselves. In addition, it is estimated that
the changes from C7 to C8 are too small to make the user a significant partIt (our own tests confirm the marginal
improvement). B & O must have secured a sufficiently large amount of money Lot C7 to continue into next year.

So to summarise, this year's and next year's Eclipse will use last year's panels - excellent, that should help boost sales!

To be fair - and if we can be fair - I'm pretty confident B&O had to commit to a minimum number of "panels" from LG as part of this deal.

Lest we forget one important fact: these aren't off-the-shelf panels, either. LG has produced a special casing for them to slot in to the soundbar. This requires manufacturing tools and a minimum order quantity. So when we talk, rather too casually in my eyes, about a 'panel', it's far from some off-the-shelf piece.

Millemissen wrote:

If this was really so, there would be little reason to buy an Eclipse.

What you will miss out is pretty much descibed here:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/09/15/bo-tech-its-not-just-a-soundbar/

This should explain something about the difference between BeoLabs connected to a BV source and a non-B&O:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/12/06/bo-tech-beolab-loudspeakers-and-third-party-systems/

As for the dongle - I am not aware that it is on the market. If you know where to buy it, please tell us!

And I am not sure either that LG made it - originally it was used in Struer for test reasons a couple of years ago.

However, if you just want a set of active B&O active speakers along with an OLED screen, it surely will be possible....

.....the right cables or the WiSA Transmitter/the S8 hub solution would do the job.

But you loose the benefits of the B&O-specific sound engine, the integrated center channel and the streaming capacities/NL(Core).....

....and of course the simplicity of controlling all with one remote, the BROne.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I am sorry MM but the advantages on a tv versus a beovision getting slimmer by the day. Integration? What integration, I need an atlona switch for distribution on picture, early days just a cable and a simple box. A core can easily share speakers with multiple solutions the oneremote or almando.

The only thing is my BLGW where I cannot fully use it but I am confident with a lintronic box I will get it as with the BR1.

I understand your love for the brand, I have really a complete setup with 4 beovisions and in every room a set of speakers and integrated cores and essences and beosounds but I cannot pull the trigger on an Eclipse. In the early days it was DVI, full HD ETC on the BV 7 but at least I got a reasonable trade in, I cannot justify to write of 5K on a tv every year....

Sorry I give you the 9 channel amplifier, which is good and I need something for my 7 beolabs in the living. However I should buy this every 10 years, not every 3. Hence one of the main reasons why I am still limping on getting an Eclipse or not.

moxxey wrote:

Lest we forget one important fact: these aren't off-the-shelf panels, either. LG has produced a special casing for them to slot in to the soundbar. This requires manufacturing tools and a minimum order quantity. So when we talk, rather too casually in my eyes, about a 'panel', it's far from some off-the-shelf piece.

And there lies the B&O product management / design failure ... if they had taken a risk to produce a stand-alone beo-sound-centre-bar they might have had broader success

Eeeeeaaaasy there MM, i was just talking “integration wise” 😁

I know a bit about the differences as i own both an Eclipse AND an LG C7, and just for the sake of the debate, i am very happy with my Eclipse.

Perhaps the WISA stick is only available in the US market still.

Millemissen wrote:

If this was really so, there would be little reason to buy an Eclipse.

What you will miss out is pretty much descibed here:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/09/15/bo-tech-its-not-just-a-soundbar/

This should explain something about the difference between BeoLabs connected to a BV source and a non-B&O:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/12/06/bo-tech-beolab-loudspeakers-and-third-party-systems/

As for the dongle - I am not aware that it is on the market. If you know where to buy it, please tell us!

And I am not sure either that LG made it - originally it was used in Struer for test reasons a couple of years ago.

However, if you just want a set of active B&O active speakers along with an OLED screen, it surely will be possible....

.....the right cables or the WiSA Transmitter/the S8 hub solution would do the job.

But you loose the benefits of the B&O-specific sound engine, the integrated center channel and the streaming capacities/NL(Core).....

....and of course the simplicity of controlling all with one remote, the BROne.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.