I normally don't post but I feel I should speak up.........

1.awesome TV

2. evolutionary (compared to new avant which already appears bulky, which I did have BTW)

3. unbelievable picture

4. brilliant sound

5. great connectivity (my dolby vision module to be replaced)

6. bug free (WISA stable now)

7. LG software easy to use

8. elegant remote

9. curtain replaced by BO logo on start up which is just as good.

10. works well with BO app

If the next step for BO is to have soundbars and generic OLEDs and custom stands, I will happily embrace it.

Life could not be better, watching England win  6-1 on Ecllipse 55 4k HDR BBC iplayer on a Sunday afternoon with surrounding BL18s.

@vlohjr1

That should convince (almost) everyone ;-)

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Puncher wrote:

I ask because I want to know what eclipse functionality can actually still be achieved with a new sound centre design for use with a generic (or selected from a limited range) of 3rd party, off the shelf tv's using HDMI arc. etc

Indeed this question has been asked before a while ago - and not answered.

Probably noone has had the possibility.....or the guts to make this experiment.

Maybe Fidse, who just wrote that he has a C7 in his bedroom, could do it ;-)))

As far as I know, it won’t work - but I can’t prove it.

This aside - it might be possible to make a ‘new Sound Center’ to use with any 3rd party tv (which has ARC etc....).

That exactly is, what is rumoured.......but we will still have to see how much ‘B&O functionallity’ will be left then.

MM

Just had a general internet mooch and it seems quite common for soundbars/receivers to overlay OSD/menus over passing  through hdmi video signals so having the b&o set up menus onscreen may not be a big deal.

Puncher wrote:

Just had a general internet mooch and it seems quite common for soundbars/receivers to overlay OSD/menus over passing  through hdmi video signals so having the b&o set up menus onscreen may not be a big deal.

Menus yes, that is not new - every AVR has been able to do that for ages.

But this will be about controlling the sources of the tv (tuner and apps) with a reasonable (read: B&O) remote - just as we are used to....

....even with the LG part of the Eclipse.

Noone will want to have to fiddle with menus, when he wants to use the tv - certainly not someone,

who is used to a B&O remote and the logic of its user interface.

MM

Surely any stand alone sound centre will be able to bring up a menu on screen - in the same way that AV receivers do.i.e as an overlay.

From my playing with the Eclipse, the B&O menus appear to be an overlay. There is no commonality with the LG webOS. That is similar to other brands too though - the smart platform looks one way, the settings menus look another. 

The bigger question re any future sound centre (to me) is whether it offers source routing (lots of HDMI pass though ports), or whether it just gets its audio via ARC from the TV. 

I believe the B&O menus on the Eclipse allow picture settings / speaker groups to be set per source - because it does the video pass through.

So i dont think a detached sound centre, if similarly equipped to the current, will be any less than the Eclipse when it comes to control.

The only difference i expect is that it won't come PUC equipped, and will rely on HDMI CEC, possibly with voice supplementing. That combo can be quite effective, much as i hate voice myself. And i know, i'm in the minority who believes that PUC will disappear from future video products - at least i wouldn't count on it.  Its not what i want to happen, its just the way they will go i think, with a non-trivial probability.

Both the new Sonos Beam, and the Alexa Cube use voice+CEC, and others will follow. Be interesting to see where the Phillips / B&W venture goes with respect to interconnectivity.

I suspect that come 2019, and any B&O sound centre, IR blasters will increasingly be seen as a thing of the past.

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vlohjr1 wrote:

Life could not be better, watching England win  6-1 on Ecllipse 55 4k HDR BBC iplayer on a Sunday afternoon with surrounding BL18s.

It was truly a great game. I was fortunate to watch it on 77 inch and almost felt the emotions. OLED are such a blessing. It almost feels real.

Millemissen wrote:

it might be possible to make a ‘new Sound Center’ to use with any 3rd party tv (which has ARC etc....).

If this is true, I am thrilled. Would love to add B&O Sound Center to my Loewe Set up. Loved the sound from B&O Sound Center from Eclipse and have been hoping against hope that B&O will offer their sound Center as stand alone offering. 

If you have any influence on them, please ask them to offer the rotating stand also in addition to the sound Center and then we can add whatever OLED screen fancies us.

We "haters" have been asking for this from day 1. 

Aston has always been a cobble of Car bits wrapped-up in some fancy aluminium. 

Even the old V12 5995cc and V8 4700cc normally aspirated goes back to something which was not born pure blood Aston. 

Trick is to make it simple, beautiful, sophisticated and quintessentially un-fussy British. 

What I think most Aston Owners don't want is something that is identical to German, Japanese, Italia offerings. It is what they are not. We can put up without the latest tech (though faults are rare unless it is a known area of paint corrosion or the headlights fogging) and without the highest performance spec because nothing and i mean nothing makes you feel as special when your driving one. 

Sound familiar?

Said as an owner / driver i suspect? In which case, kudos to you.

I have a very nice 911 GTS cab, it feels special to drive and entirely coherent in its design and operation.

Though i do think these luxury car makers will have their work cut out maintaining that special feeling as they transition to electric.....will be interesting to watch it play out, especially with Porsche close to releasing a full EV. 

Similar to B&O, will have to think longer and harder about whether the new Porsche EV will be worth the premium.

svinaik wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

it might be possible to make a ‘new Sound Center’ to use with any 3rd party tv (which has ARC etc....).

If this is true, I am thrilled. Would love to add B&O Sound Center to my Loewe Set up. Loved the sound from B&O Sound Center from Eclipse and have been hoping against hope that B&O will offer their sound Center as stand alone offering. 

If you have any influence on them, please ask them to offer the rotating stand also in addition to the sound Center and then we can add whatever OLED screen fancies us.

We "haters" have been asking for this from day 1. 

 

I guess you noticed my ‘but’, which was important in this case!

If it was so easy, why didn’t they do that right away?

Why did they have to use ‘modified LG tv’s’ - and not just some from stock?

MM