Millemissen wrote:

Do you have some figures and facts, that we/I don’t have?

Do you have any to show how well it's going?

fu21 wrote:

I peeled off the LG C7 sticker off the back of the eclipse TV after it had been installed.

B

Beer_Baron wrote:

I've had an order in since last year, with the requirement that it be the C8 screen. I've been told that my C8 screen will be delivered late July (I am in Australia). Two questions:

How do I tell it is a C8 screen? Some say there is a sticker on the back, can you be more specific? MM, to get the HDMI "fix" for Dolby Vision, what must I ask for? Is there an engineering or technical number that I can quote to have it fitted before delivery? BV6-26, BV7-40, BL7.4, BL3, BL5, BS9000, BC1, ES1, Beo4, BeoPort

Fidse wrote:

I, by the way, freakin’ love my Eclipse!

 

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It sure is the most beautiful TV/music centre out there.

🙂

Perhaps we shouldn't spend too much time on discussing if the Eclipse is value for money or enough up-to-date wrt technology, and instead focus on the strategy for B&O regarding televisions? B&O do read what is written here.

Most are aware that the Eclipse didn't reach the expected volumes. Around here, quite a few BV7 owners (not including BV7-55 mk2 owners a.o) upgraded to a new BV prior to the launch of the Eclipse. The BV11/14 and Avant were "replacement" TV's for this group, and they are not looking at replacing their current investment anytime soon. So adding BV11/14+Avant sales thinking this will be the Eclipse sales is perhaps not as straight forward? Or whatever the sales department thought prior to the launch of the Eclipse and ordering screens. So the Eclipse had to attract new customers to compensate - a tough task for any BeoVision.

With this in mind B&O is now heading down a route that could give us "regular" soundbars and a more custom soundbar, where a generic LG screen can be docked/placed and replaced. Struer will not necessarily provide the screen, but the dealers can buy them at their local "Dixon" outlet and provide a package to the customer.

Perhaps B&O let too many Vision-experts go and this is a given route now - or could / should they take a step back and reconsider the BeoVision line-up?

Roger

I really wouldn't get too perturbed if you have a C7 screen; I doubt it very much if you will notice any difference more a marketing move if you ask me. There will be a C9 next year what then? Presumably B&O built TV's using the C7 and the C8 will be introduced as the older sets sell or they use up old stock. Its the same at Loewe.

Copied this off the Loewe forum:

The "majority" are mechanical changes, the panel is significantly heavier than its predecessors. Certainly some internal components will be developed further, but the image performance will have little influence. 

Differences that are "testable": 
About 50nits overall (HDR mode) more than V17. Recognizing the difference in daily use is difficult. 
The maximum peak limiter (HDR mode) has been lowered. With V17 was at a 10% window at about 700-750, max. 800nits final.V18 can go down to a 3% window and theoretically (emphasis here is on theory) to 1000nits for a minute or two. 

Admittedly this is relating to Loewe OLED with their propriety software/processing

For what its worth I looked very hard at the Eclipse but I really didn't like the design and the fact that the software was purely LG. Opted for Loewe Bild 5 in a retro stand which imo shows far more design fair but of course its all a matter of taste. Undoubtedly B&O will have better sound btw but for me not a major selling point

Looks a bit close to your wood burner if you ask me😕

Millemissen wrote:

Quite a lot Eclipse owners seem to be happy with their tv.

Please name me a tv, that - from an owerall point of view - comes near to a BV Eclipse.

MM

Well, my mother-in-law briefly had a Sanyo POS that was about as infuriating on updates and s/w issues as the Eclipse, but since by comparison it was almost free I guess that isn't exactly the same.

As for number who like/hate it, vs. perhaps the number of people who will come and rave in favor of it regardless of if it's working well or not, because they can't admit they bought a pig in a poke and are still desperately trying to put lipstick on said pig through the small hole in the poke, well, hard to know for sure but I have my opinions.