BEOVISION ECLIPSE

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Millemissen wrote:

Quite a lot Eclipse owners seem to be happy with their tv.

Please name me a tv, that - from an owerall point of view - comes near to a BV Eclipse.

MM

And quite a lot don't. But let us become unreal. If cost were no object, I would prefer a brand new 11-55 on a motorised wall bracket over an Eclipse. Elegance unmatched, acceptable tech and performance, with superior quality. Using the same mentality, I would rather have a perfect '95 Mercedes E Class (with a current audio system) than a 2018. 

fu21 wrote:

I think you’re right. LG have produced something special for B&O- It’s called a C7 screen.

I peeled off the LG C7 sticker off the back of the eclipse TV after it had been installed.

B&O have produced something equally special.

It’s called an absolute rip off where it’s hopefully, finally going to allow 4K blu Ray players and Apple 4K TV to show images how they should be seen several months after launch by fixing its soundcentre.

It’s a dying breed which will , I am sure cease TV production in the near future.

Complete disappointment.

Why defend a company which once again has released a TV which is nowhere near ready for Release.

And some people still live in the denial-land and call Eclipse a BeoVision.

To add insult to injury, it is now an out-dated LG C7 (picture tech-wise), missing many of the updates that we LG C7 owners have got OTA from LG – improving motion handling & color accuracy. Something B&O's VisionClear was once all about: the superior picture. Not anymore.

Millemissen wrote:

Quite a lot Eclipse owners seem to be happy with their tv.

Please name me a tv, that - from an owerall point of view - comes near to a BV Eclipse.

MM

There are far too few who think as you do, certainly not enough willing to buy it in sufficient quantities - and not an insignificant number of current owners who, given the choice, wouldn't make the same purchase decision again.

Hardly a world beater then.

Loewe Bild 7 on a motorized stand, with its motorized speaker, has more mechanical magic and a much better price/value ratio than the Eclipse.

Add the Almando decoder for a setup with BeoLabs.

That's a very good match for the Eclipse.

Still, I'd rather choose the TV part and sound part separately (as I do now). I can upgrade to LG C8 for less than €2.000 by the end of this year.

Would I go for a B&O SoundBar? Probably. There's no difficulty in the concept: just connect via HDMI ARC-CEC (one cable!) – just like the LG C7 is connected to Eclipse's SoundCenter.

Puncher wrote:

There are far too few who think as you do, certainly not enough willing to buy it in sufficient quantities - and not an insignificant number of current owners who, given the choice, wouldn't make the same purchase decision again.

Hardly a world beater then.

Do you have some figures and facts, that we/I don’t have?

Maybe the content owners just don’t fancy joining the conversation here......in this hornet’s nest.

They are sure to be stung immediately.

Maybe they prefer spending their time watching and listening to their BV Eclipse ;-)

MM

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Millemissen wrote:

Maybe the content owners just don’t fancy joining the conversation here......in this hornet’s nest.

They are sure to be stung immediately.

Maybe they prefer spending their time watching and listening to their BV Eclipse ;-)

You have to be respected for your total dedication to the brand, irrespective of the matter discussed.

Personally, I do not think that folks on this forum are out to sting anybody. After all, it is everyone's own business to decide where they spend their money and what brings them enjoyment and fulfillment. If Eclipse rocks someone's boat, I am all for it.

For me it was just a messy pool totally incapable of floating any boat but that is my issue, not Eclipse owner's 🙂

JFJBrussels wrote:
Do you (or anybody) know something about C8 upgrade?

I've had an order in since last year, with the requirement that it be the C8 screen. I've been told that my C8 screen will be delivered late July (I am in Australia). Two questions:

  • How do I tell it is a C8 screen? Some say there is a sticker on the back, can you be more specific?
  • MM, to get the HDMI "fix" for Dolby Vision, what must I ask for? Is there an engineering or technical number that I can quote to have it fitted before delivery?
Millemissen wrote:

Maybe the content owners just don’t fancy joining the conversation here......in this hornet’s nest.

They are sure to be stung immediately.

Maybe they prefer spending their time watching and listening to their BV Eclipse ;-)

MM

So very true. While I am not an Eclipse owner, I am a very content B and O owner with multiple products. I stopped posting here sometime ago because any positive comment I made was attacked, or stung. Sometimes I would post a totally neutral fact/comment and people would twist into something it was not, so that they could attack me for being positive about B and O. I have no problem believing that content Eclipse owners choose not to post.

Razlaw wrote:

So very true. While I am not an Eclipse owner, I am a very content B and O owner with multiple products. I stopped posting here sometime ago because any positive comment I made was attacked, or stung. Sometimes I would post a totally neutral fact/comment and people would twist into something it was not, so that they could attack me for being positive about B and O. I have no problem believing that content Eclipse owners choose not to post.

I only sometimes post these days. It doesn’t matter if you’re trying to be objective and open for criticism, the only thing that rules over here nowadays in negativity and bashing.

Because in my opinion NL is superb ( in comparison to ML and MCL) and in my case always works (also with the integrated ML Audio devices). The Eclipse is a beautiful tv with astonishing sound. Even the Moment works like a charm these days!

But hell nowadays this is way to positive for this forum.

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