Well... their OLED’s (which i think will be the only screens available to whatever B&O will come up with), are all just intirely black screens, from afront at least, so design wise there a really no downsides, to me at least. They look like a tv, that’s it...
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Well... their OLED’s (which i think will be the only screens available to whatever B&O will come up with), are all just intirely black screens, from afront at least, so design wise there a really no downsides, to me at least. They look like a tv, that’s it...
Pretty much the same for whatever TV you buy, Beovision or regular, Sony, LG, all are big black blank slates without a signal. The only exception I know to this is the Samsung Frame, which looks like a large framed picture and will display photos or art when not showing a TV signal. To me, this is the only unique and out of the box thinking on TVs I've seen in decades, it's truly innovative. Unfortunately, the panel tech is not the best, black levels and other LCD issues are present. Now, an OLED version of it would be stunning. It truly surprised me that this level of artistic style came not from B&O but from Samsung.
Well, it’s not really that unique.Sony did it about 10 years ago, it just died out, and I’m pretty sure this Samsung model will too. It’s just fashion, like the hideous remake of the Fiat 500 and those Paris Hilton dogs.... the Samsung frame is a tv for women, and women don’t buy that many tv’s. I think that’s part of the explanation why B&O (for one) never made one, Samsung ar definetely not the first one’s to think of it.
Pretty much the same for whatever TV you buy, Beovision or regular, Sony, LG, all are big black blank slates without a signal. The only exception I know to this is the Samsung Frame, which looks like a large framed picture and will display photos or art when not showing a TV signal. To me, this is the only unique and out of the box thinking on TVs I've seen in decades, it's truly innovative. Unfortunately, the panel tech is not the best, black levels and other LCD issues are present. Now, an OLED version of it would be stunning. It truly surprised me that this level of artistic style came not from B&O but from Samsung. Jeff Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!
Why would they sell a B&O Sound Centre that only connects to an LG TV, just after they effectively break their partnership with LG.
That would seem insane and incredibly restrictive, and surely something even B&O wouldn't do.
If they're out of the BV TV business, and just going to sell audio solutions, then why would they only sell a audio solution for an LG TV?
If the Sound Centre (of the future) is not physically tethered to the (LG) TV, and is a separate unit, then it will surely connect to many brands using HDMI.
Why would they restrict themselves?
When did they break the partnership with LG? Let me just underline that I’m only guessing here.But the ability to control both the tv and the soundcentre with the same remote isn’t that straightforward, name me one good universal remote, one that gets just remotely (excuse the pun) to the standards of a BeoRemote?
Why would they sell a B&O Sound Centre that only connects to an LG TV, just after they effectively break their partnership with LG. That would seem insane and incredibly restrictive, and surely something even B&O wouldn't do. If they're out of the BV TV business, and just going to sell audio solutions, then why would they only sell a audio solution for an LG TV? If the Sound Centre (of the future) is not physically tethered to the (LG) TV, and is a separate unit, then it will surely connect to many brands using HDMI. Why would they restrict themselves?
Of course, maybe i'm misinterpreting Roger's initial post, we'll have to wait and see i guess.
And i'm with you, i hate voice control, love my BR, would love them to continue with it even with an untethered sound centre.
My point re the remote was that i think there is a strong chance come fall 2019 when they move on from the Eclipse, that the sound centre wont come with a similar remote. Amongst the reasons i've given before (HDMI 2.1, a shift to voice / apps etc), it doesn't seem entirely logical to expect a similar (TV) remote when they're not selling you a TV.
But again, i agree with you that i'd like to see something physical, whatever form it takes, just not hopeful.
Of course - if the result would be a ‘soundbar’....just a soundbar, there would be no reason for a remote like the BROne.
However, if it is ‘not just a soundbar’ meaning something like the current Sound Center with NL support, HDMI’s (with PUC) PowerLink outputs (cabled or WiSA), there would be any reason to have a similar remote.
The remotes have morphed over time, but we will still be in need of a simple remote to control the complexity of the modern sources and (sound) functions = a B&O Remote
MM
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Of course - if the result would be a ‘soundbar’....just a soundbar, there would be no reason for a remote like the BROne.
However, if it is ‘not just a soundbar’ meaning something like the current Sound Center with NL support, HDMI’s (with PUC) PowerLink outputs (cabled or WiSA), there would be any reason to have a similar remote.
The remotes have morphed over time, but we will still be in need of a simple remote to control the complexity of the modern sources and (sound) functions = a B&O Remote
MM
Exactly. If it is just a tarted up soundbar with DSP and the correct licenses, what will b&o have accomplished? The competition is huge and years ahead at a target of €1000 for "audiophile" soundbars, WISA included with some. If it is a real b&o, then it will have to appear as an exciting agnostic backbone for b&o and WISA systems.
Given the probability of that anchoring a spirited audio business, I think they should get on their hands and knees (at least) and attack Loewe with a large dose of humility, creating the best option for what is left of the TV-anchored small multi-room business. b&o are not in the major leagues anymore, and they know it. Saw an A9 at a chic clothing store today. Very nice, but it's not a strategy.
Well, it’s not really that unique.
Sony did it about 10 years ago, it just died out, and I’m pretty sure this Samsung model will too. It’s just fashion, like the hideous remake of the Fiat 500 and those Paris Hilton dogs....
the Samsung frame is a tv for women, and women don’t buy that many tv’s. I think that’s part of the explanation why B&O (for one) never made one, Samsung ar definetely not the first one’s to think of it.
Pretty much the same for whatever TV you buy, Beovision or regular, Sony, LG, all are big black blank slates without a signal. The only exception I know to this is the Samsung Frame, which looks like a large framed picture and will display photos or art when not showing a TV signal. To me, this is the only unique and out of the box thinking on TVs I've seen in decades, it's truly innovative. Unfortunately, the panel tech is not the best, black levels and other LCD issues are present. Now, an OLED version of it would be stunning. It truly surprised me that this level of artistic style came not from B&O but from Samsung.
Jeff
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Interesting, I've never seen or heard of the Sony version. However, the opinion that it's just "fashion" comes perilously close to describing most Beovisions, especially the Eclipse. A woman's TV, hmmmmm, sounds a tad sexist doesn't it? Might not someone also say that about the Beovision?
I think this might be the one: Login to view imageInteresting, I've never seen or heard of the Sony version. However, the opinion that it's just "fashion" comes perilously close to describing most Beovisions, especially the Eclipse. A woman's TV, hmmmmm, sounds a tad sexist doesn't it? Might not someone also say that about the Beovision? Jeff Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!
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