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KMA wrote:

Jeff wrote:

 

Truth hurts eh?

 

Why are you here if you only want to hear hagiographies about B&O?

 

Jeff

 

Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!

 

 

 

I may give a similar impression to fellow Beoworlders as you, and if so, the reason is simple: I love the brand and B&O has been a part of my life for decades (some times more, some times – like just now – a little less).

 

 

From BeoSystem 7000 / BeoCenter 9500, the legacy Avants, Pentas, BL8000s, BL6000s, RLs of the past, Ouverture, BS9000, BeoVision 7 / 10 / 11 – I am so dissappointed at what B&O offers today.

 

 

They used to be truly premium: quality, superiority in audio & vision, and ease-of-use. Like No One Else (today, that tagline is a blasphemy to B&O's legacy).

 

 

Today, they have compromised everything but the aluminium! It makes me sad, mad, critical and judgemental – because I still do love the brand that has been so integral in my everyday-life. Right up until the point I sold my BeoVision 11 and realized where B&O is today.

 

 

Are they a luxury brand? By the brand heritage only, not by the products they sell today. The 7 CICs are forgotten, and I'm pretty sure that both Peter and Svend are turning in their graves 🙁

 

 

There is truly an eclipse on the company!

Well said indeed.

Fidse wrote:

That’s not even my point. I just don’t get, why you will spend so much time, on something you are so mad about. If it were me, i would turn my focus on to something else, but thats just me.

I was not trying to bash you or anything, i truly just wanted to know....

Jeff just wants to display his disapointment!

When you know that, you can easily pick out the posts, where he is adding something of value....which he does from time to time.

MM

Bless your little heart MM. 😕

Anyone else having issues with TuneIn turning off after approx. half an hour? The TV stays on but there is no audio. I have to re-select the source in order to reconnect. This has been a problem during this weekend. No problems before that.

Millemissen wrote:

Fidse wrote:

That’s not even my point. I just don’t get, why you will spend so much time, on something you are so mad about. If it were me, i would turn my focus on to something else, but thats just me.

I was not trying to bash you or anything, i truly just wanted to know....

Jeff just wants to display his disapointment!

When you know that, you can easily pick out the posts, where he is adding something of value....which he does from time to time.

MM

B&O TV should have stopped with BV11 because nothing will ever be as good from B&O. I said it and I love B&O. 

Apple make a sound system for £ 330 that is good or better sound than all BeoPlay short of A9. The only products B&O have trouble with are electronic. Moderators and MM (10000 posts in 5 years means you can't pick out the turds from the beans or is it the other way around?) don't like the warning that some products are Ferrari from the Fiat parts bin and some others are just Fiat. But at least there is a Ferrari and Fiat sales and service. 

BV12-65 perhaps represents the more recent high watermark i would suggest (full disclosure i have one).

I think the TV debate has been rehashed endlessly here - flat wafer think rectangles don't leave much scope for design value added, so in that sense its a tough challenge for B&O. But agreed on the software failings, though even there i would suggest that other brands have plenty of software issues too. Siri is very poor and miles behind their peers, Sony TV's of the last year or so have had to deal with the Dolby Vision issue. And there are plenty of others. Perhaps not as basic as some of B&O's stumbles, but plenty of grumbling on those brands forums. 

If i need to get a new high end TV today, they all have compromises, unfortunately. LG's are the best featured, but have a marmite UI and not the best upscaling and motion processing. Sony's have the best upscaling and motion processing, but use Android (ugh!) and are missing DV.  Samsung's picture processing is ghastly.  

Picking something like the 12-65 was easy, i dont think the choices are so straightforward now, B&O or otherwise.

Sandyb wrote:

i dont think the choices are so straightforward now, B&O or otherwise.

I agree with your overall assessment but disagree with the conclusion.

Previously BV9-50 and then BV 12-65 were the high points but in the current market, Loewe BILD 7 does rise to the top for various reasons that hobble the other brands like B&O, Sony, LG etc...

Full disclosure, I own the Loewe 7.77 and the experience has been absolutely extraordinary.

Indeed, did think about Loewe, and if i did need to change my 12-65 i'd give them a proper look and serious consideration

(even though i previously had a Loewe Airspeaker, which while lovely sounding, was so bad software wise it belies description)

You have yours connected to B&O speakers using an Almando box if i remember correctly? One thing i do love about my setup is that i can tap one of the speakers in other rooms (A9 or BS2) and it just picks up the audio from the lounge or bedroom BV's (be that music, radio or TV). Not sure if that still works with your setup...apologies if you'd covered that in a previous post that you did once your were all set up.

In the meantime you've got me dreaming of a 77 inch screen!

In terms of being an integrated Beovision, sound, stand, etc. I agree with poodleboy that the BV11 is the one. In terms of being the highest level of video performance, the BV12-65 is it, a stunning piece of Panasonic plasma glass there.

It's all been downhill since then.

tigerisak wrote:

Im having issues with the ABL on my Beovision Eclipse. And from what I have heard and read from Bang Olufsen it is not possible to disable.
When a white scene that has more than 60% white color, the screen dims drastically. On LG televisions this can be disable through an option called ABL but not on the Eclipse.

Got this answer from Bang Olufsen support: ABL is an LG protection Feature to avoid OLED screen damage.

In some LG TV's settings can be adjusted using a special Service Mode remote control.

At the Eclipse this service mode is not available for customers and unauthorized change of settings may influence warranty.

 

Only standard Picture settings can be changed.

Please try it out to see if you can find settings that will minimize the dimming effect

I have disabled the Eco settings and turned down the auto contrast to none. Any suggestions?  

Anyone?