while there seems to be a general consensus about the good sound quality on the Eclipse, I’m concerned about how quickly B&O will be receiving upgraded panels whenLG introduce-these.  For example, Home Cinema Choice recently reported on the LG Signature G7 and B&O’s Eclipse.  The LG panel apparently experienced “motion picture handling is average and the TruMotionprocessing is a heavy-handed solution to motion judder and loss of moving detail. Both theClear and Smooth  options conjure obvious artefacts around moving objects. It’s an area where the brand should make improvements next year’  The Eclipse report noted that” it might be interesting ... to see if B&O’s own processing could have fixed some occasional niggles associated with LG’sOLED sets(motion handling).  Has anyone viewed say skiing on these panels?  Does anyone know the official situation regarding the introduction of upgraded LG panels on the Eclipse?    Villarsch

villarsch wrote:

while there seems to be a general consensus about the good sound quality on the Eclipse, I’m concerned about how quickly B&O will be receiving upgraded panels whenLG introduce-these.  For example, Home Cinema Choice recently reported on the LG Signature G7 and B&O’s Eclipse.  The LG panel apparently experienced “motion picture handling is average and the TruMotionprocessing is a heavy-handed solution to motion judder and loss of moving detail. Both theClear and Smooth  options conjure obvious artefacts around moving objects. It’s an area where the brand should make improvements next year’  The Eclipse report noted that” it might be interesting ... to see if B&O’s own processing could have fixed some occasional niggles associated with LG’sOLED sets(motion handling).  Has anyone viewed say skiing on these panels?  Does anyone know the official situation regarding the introduction of upgraded LG panels on the Eclipse?    Villarsch

I experience a lot of stutter when watching sports on the Eclipse. I know that this is a problem with the C7 panel and that LG are working on it. 
Their latest FW fixed some issues so hoping that an update will arrive soon for the Eclipse cause right now I cant really see any fast moving sports like football. 

villarsch wrote:

Does anyone know the official situation regarding the introduction of upgraded LG panels on the Eclipse?    Villarsch

I'm not sure there is an official opinion. Some dealers have speculated you'll be able to drop in a new panel at a later date.

However, two issues I have here. And they are big. I have zero issues with my BV12-65. Superb with movies, excellent with sport. Clear, smooth, no transitional motion issues, nothing. Are we really saying in 2017 that an OLED panel needs an upgrade to offer motion improvements? Secondly, the cost of any panel upgrade won't be cheap. I'd estimate £4000 to drop in a new panel. On top of the original purchase!

Goes back to having LG processing, which isnt as good as Sony, Panasonic etc

That said, i was surprised at the post yesterday that sport was hard to watch on the Eclipse (?!). Can't be that bad surely?

The panel changing / replacement subject is a waste of time anyway - as you mention, for cost reasons alone, no one is going to be swapping panels often, if at all. In theory it would be a nice flexibility to have of course for, say, 5 years down the road - but as the company has said nothing about this as a feature, i'd wouldnt count on anything that far in the future.

moxxey wrote:

villarsch wrote:

Does anyone know the official situation regarding the introduction of upgraded LG panels on the Eclipse?    Villarsch

I'm not sure there is an official opinion. Some dealers have speculated you'll be able to drop in a new panel at a later date.

However, two issues I have here. And they are big. I have zero issues with my BV12-65. Superb with movies, excellent with sport. Clear, smooth, no transitional motion issues, nothing. Are we really saying in 2017 that an OLED panel needs an upgrade to offer motion improvements? Secondly, the cost of any panel upgrade won't be cheap. I'd estimate £4000 to drop in a new panel. On top of the original purchase!

I think we will have a better guess here in two weeks when LG launch there new panels,

I doubt it though as HDMI 2.1 is on its way and the soundcenter does not have this (as it was not invented at the time)

About OLED vs Plasma, I do not watch must sport so have never noticed motion problems, but the other advantes OLED have compared to Plasma is really significant. I would never go back to a Plasma as the Picture in the day is so doll.

But anyways not really a discussion as Plasma is no more.

moxxey wrote:

villarsch wrote:

Does anyone know the official situation regarding the introduction of upgraded LG panels on the Eclipse?    Villarsch

I'm not sure there is an official opinion. Some dealers have speculated you'll be able to drop in a new panel at a later date.

However, two issues I have here. And they are big. I have zero issues with my BV12-65. Superb with movies, excellent with sport. Clear, smooth, no transitional motion issues, nothing. Are we really saying in 2017 that an OLED panel needs an upgrade to offer motion improvements? Secondly, the cost of any panel upgrade won't be cheap. I'd estimate £4000 to drop in a new panel. On top of the original purchase!

One of the things I've noticed for a long time now is that "progress" often isn't. We got rid of plasma, only to have to go to OLED, a hot new tech that has burn in issues and other plasma like "features" but worse motion performance. And an uncertain longevity of the panels. Big improvement eh? And at only a much higher price!

The purpose of far too many "innovations" and "improvements" especially in the consumer electronics realm is to cause people to churn equipment to the benefit of the companies selling gear. And music, how many times can they get you to buy your favorite albume? LP, CD, SACD, HD Audio...it never stops.

tigerisak wrote:

I experience a lot of stutter when watching sports on the Eclipse. I know that this is a problem with the C7 panel and that LG are working on it. Their latest FW fixed some issues so hoping that an update will arrive soon for the Eclipse cause right now I cant really see any fast moving sports like football.

Since two weeks I am an owner of an Eclipse 55". And yes I have viewed skiing, football, formula one already a view times without any motion studdler or loss of detail. 

My Eclipse is wired via UTP to the internet not wireless via wifi. Maybe that causes some studdling?