My dealer didn't even tell me about functionality issues and the fact that the NL/ML had been discontinued.

I think they were embarrassed. Only after pestering my dealer and emails to Denmark was I told.

Denmark didn't even reply to my question of NL/ML Functionality.

An AV cable was fitted and I was told to control the Beosound 4 manually as it would be too complicated to use beo4 and BeoRemote one. They struggled with the BeoRemote one. The Beosound 4 now plays via the Eclipse . With the Eclipse on, Use the BeoRemote One to select Music. Then scroll down to Line in. Turn on Beosound unit and CD/Radio will play.  Then manually change Radio stations or CD. If you want to do this fine. Premium brands with their premium products should integrate. I am disappointed. If people own these products deep down they will be too.

My eclipse 55 is very good. Unfortunately I wasn't told of any issues until I started reporting them.

It is not worth £8800.

Will be returning my Eclipse and buying AV separates and a 2018 LG Panel next year.

Razlaw wrote:

If you would have bothered to actually read my post, and pay attention...

Personal attack alarm. My internal siren has gone off. "Pay attention". Funny.

@fu21

I understand your position very well, i’ve been in the same headspace for a bit and so far have come out the opposite end. I so far have decides to keep the eclipse, but it verywell might be my last “beovision”. The tv(yes this is on purpose) by itself is very, if not extremely good. However just connection things to it, even speakers, is not that terific unfortunately.

I guess what makes my situation different is that because i moved house, i lost all my nl/ml boxes etc as they where all built onto the wall and under the floors for years. Then some people came in to do spray insulation, with instuctions to avoid all the wiring, and still put it behind 12” of closed cell foam... due to time and so on there was no rescue possible with the sale of the house so i sold what i had. So now iam all up to date with the beo stuff, then again, besides the picture quality, it doesn’t feel like much of an upgrade functionality wise. All the “old” stuff just worked, i have some issues now. I just would’ve loved if b&o made a dumb tv with a apple tv cubbie(or similar)and a surround processor. Or better yet, the soundcenter of the eclipse as a stand alone product.

One can hope and dream i guess..

Mikipedia wrote:

Yes, looks nice too!

New: Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beovision eclipse.

Mikipedi4 on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WLHXZuA1GANMzYcAn5_xg

Old: Beolab 1's, beolab 2, beovision 10-46, overture 2300, beolab 8000's, beolab 4000's, beovision avant 32" etc. etc.

Sweet 😁

Did I read correct ? ML/NL discontinued?

What about NL, is that still “around”?

Aussie Michael wrote:

What about NL, is that still “around”?

/forum/general-discussion-and-questions/bampo-nl-supported-devices#post-2097839

MM

Need some help!  We want to upgrade our BV5 to a full HD BV with some HDMI inputs.

Current setup: Living room: BV5, BS9000 and BL5. DAC connected to BV5 (for Spotify). Adjacent glasshouse/winter garden - Link room: MX6000, BL8000s. When we're having parties, we open the huge glass-door between our living room and the glasshouse and play music from BS9000/Spotify to both the BL5s and the BL8000s. Works very well - easy with the Beo4.  Ref this thread.

We want to replace the MX6000 in the adjacent glasshouse with the BV5, and have a "new" BV in our living room.

We cannot decide whether to buy the Eclipse 65 or a pre-owned Beosystem 3 based BV 12-65 / BV 7-55 / BV9 ...

Here are my pros and cons:

Eclipse:

+ 4k OLED screen with HDMIs. Elegant, timeless design (but not as nice as the BV5) 

+ Build in Netflix/Amazon/Spotify. Apple 4k TV

+ Sound quality (not most important for us, since we have the BL5s as well)

- Need BeoSound Core to connect the two rooms

- Cannot play spdif/coax from BS9000 to BL5 anymore (no more  "CD-source-command" via PL to the BL5)

- BS9000 can only be connected via aux to the Eclipse. 

- Need 2 remotes; Beo4 and Beoremote one + B&O app on iPhone to control the sound in the two rooms. Complicated!

- Will the issues people are having with the Eclipse (4k 60hz dolby vision issues, booting, not persistent speaker control...) be sorted out?

 

Buy a pre-owned Beosystem 3 based BV9 / BV7-55 / BV12-65:

+ Easy multiroom management via Beo4. One remote

+ Continue to get optimal sound from BL5 when playing CDs (from BS9000 via spdif/coax using "CD-source-command" through PL to the BL5)

- Should we really put EUR 3000-5000 + 25% Norwegian VAT on the table for a 5-10 year old TV set?

- Challenging/costly to transport such a huge TV (plasma) the looooong way from Denmark/Germany/UK..

- Picture quality

 

Any help in our decision are appreciated 🙂!

vikinger wrote:

the motorised hinge cleverly gives the illusion of the TV floating away from the wall, much more so than with the BV10 or BV11. This is still the TV area that B&O excels in.

Interesting point

I have only seen the stand version to date

@BeoET

Your own answers seem to prove the pre-loved route is better !

Hi svinaik.

Nice tv i saw it to last week just hope no problems with it since i heard that the Loewe OLED sometimes break down.

I want to buy one for my house in France to but i hesitate for now

Have you made good arrangement,s just in case it does not work?