Jeff wrote:

I should point out that the people who are most adamant and enthusiastic in their defense of the Eclipse, and most likely to get their noses out of joint and whine about things, are people who don't even own an Eclipse.

B&O's 100th anniversary is only 8 years away, I truly wonder what will be left of B&O, if anything, by then.

Jeff

Beovirus victim, it's gotten to be too much to list!

Razlaw wrote:

Just as most of those who complain about the Eclipse also do not own an Eclipse.

Sadly not true - at least 3 owners on here have stated they are not happy. And non-owners aren't "complaining", just pointing out why were have serious reservations about purchasing. There's a difference.

moxxey wrote:

Sadly not true - at least 3 owners on here have stated they are not happy. And non-owners aren't "complaining", just pointing out why were have serious reservations about purchasing. There's a difference.

moxxey wrote:

Razlaw wrote:

Just as most of those who complain about the Eclipse also do not own an Eclipse.

Sadly not true - at least 3 owners on here have stated they are not happy. And non-owners aren't "complaining", just pointing out why were have serious reservations about purchasing. There's a difference.

Good point, Captain Pedantic's comments notwithstanding. I was unimpressed enough with the Eclipse just for the obvious reasons, little B&O in it compared with past televisions, like the BV11, a fast and dirty kludge. The kinds of problems and lacking capabilities people who actually own it have pointed out lowers my opinion of it even more. I think it a shame that buyers are basically Alpha testers, not even Beta testers, these days.

Jeff wrote:

 I think it a shame that buyers are basically Alpha testers, not even Beta testers, these days.

Not making excuses for B&O, but, unfortunately, they're not the only ones doing this.  I curse Microsoft for making this business practice acceptable way back when (supported by their monopoly position and legions of rabid fanboys).  Now, it's even worse because the ubiquity of network connectivity has made upgrading software almost too easy so there's little reason not to ship alpha products.  After all, QA/QC testing is expensive, In fact, I've heard a successful silicon valley executive actually say "people pay for features, not quality".  Unfortunately, there's probably more truth to this statement than I'd like to admit.

Indeed, even Apple these days release software with the odd unfinished feature set. And they are feted for releasing slowly and historically "stuff which just works", more or less.

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Is that your aluminum grill?  My dealer said I would not get one until February (assuming I actually order the TV).

My dealer didn't even tell me about functionality issues and the fact that the NL/ML had been discontinued.

I think they were embarrassed. Only after pestering my dealer and emails to Denmark was I told.

Denmark didn't even reply to my question of NL/ML Functionality.

An AV cable was fitted and I was told to control the Beosound 4 manually as it would be too complicated to use beo4 and BeoRemote one. They struggled with the BeoRemote one. The Beosound 4 now plays via the Eclipse . With the Eclipse on, Use the BeoRemote One to select Music. Then scroll down to Line in. Turn on Beosound unit and CD/Radio will play.  Then manually change Radio stations or CD. If you want to do this fine. Premium brands with their premium products should integrate. I am disappointed. If people own these products deep down they will be too.

My eclipse 55 is very good. Unfortunately I wasn't told of any issues until I started reporting them.

It is not worth £8800.

Will be returning my Eclipse and buying AV separates and a 2018 LG Panel next year.