Hi Tigerisak

I guess you mean these washer, which I asked why they put them there except for the tilt.

You are right, the TV are in my opinion better more straight.

Regarding the washers - this is the memo B&O circulated to their dealers/installers:

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Thank you Roger, for the official information from Bang & Olufsen about the washer.

Having had the eclipse since end of September I have to say the TV performance is excellent. But that’s because it’s an LG panel with no processing. Picture quality is outstanding.

Unfortunately everything connected with B&O is either satisfactory or below par. The final nail is no functionality of the NL/ML converter. Beosound 4 is now hard wired to the eclipse and is a manually controlled device. There is no plan to incorporate this in the future.

4K 60HZ will eventually work with Apple TV 4K and other 3rd party devices such as Panasonic 4k blu Ray player. What a shame this wasn’t resolved prior to release. Other flaws become apparent as you will see. 

Disappointing.

fu21 wrote:

Unfortunately everything connected with B&O is either satisfactory or below par. The final nail is no functionality of the NL/ML converter. Beosound 4 is now hard wired to the eclipse and is a manually controlled device. There is no plan to incorporate this in the future.

Wait! Are you saying that my NL/ML Converter will never function with the Eclipse? Thats a deal breaker for me, sorry.
All this talk about firing and closing down makes me want a Beovision even more. At least before its to late.
But with Android trouble and no NL/ML on Eeclipse i am looking more into the 11.....

Just now I also have my BS9000 hardwired through the NL/ML converter and have already had a very long conversation to my B&O dealer after realizing that this setup did not work much more than 20% when connected to Eclipse, even after spending a fortune keeping the BS9000 “alive”

Very, very disappointing that B&O let their old costumer down in this way. NL/ML converter is now discontinued.

Sound is great in the Eclipse and picture is also if you can live with the flaw of OLED like pink in left and right side on a white screen, banding in the dark and other issues, but more about this in AVS forum, OLED uniformity issues.

It is simply not enough for this price that sound and picture is good in a Beovision, I choose this setup over the Loewe/Almando to keep all the functionalety and integration B&O have been well known for, now I’m as far as possible from Bang & Olufsen’s old philosophy “one push at one button” it’s more like ten push at different buttons on different units even in different options.

If they not keep up doing something about this NL/ML converter / Eclipse, this is our final buying of Bang & Olufsen equipment in the future.

BestSound wrote:

Very, very disappointing that B&O let their old costumer down in this way. NL/ML converter is now discontinued.

Or Start the BS7000 record player connected at a BLC and JOIN the Eclipse (all done with the app).

so if you can't buy it new anymore, find a secondhand one.

fu21 wrote:

Unfortunately, everything connected with B&O is either satisfactory or below par. 

Wow, that's some statement.

moxxey wrote:

fu21 wrote:

Unfortunately, everything connected with B&O is either satisfactory or below par. 

Wow, that's some statement.

I'm sure the cavalry will be here shortly to tell that everything is OK.

Puncher wrote:

moxxey wrote:

fu21 wrote:

Unfortunately, everything connected with B&O is either satisfactory or below par. 

Wow, that's some statement.

I'm sure the cavalry will be here shortly to tell that everything is OK.

If people like myself are the cavalry then you are part of the B&O bashers....at least the cavalry are trying to promote positiveness and make the forum a conducive place to discuss the brand and attract new members. When a Eclipse owner says something positive about the TV they get rubbished and of course when someone says something negative the bashers are delighted. Its a lose lose situation. Only reason I am still on this forum is because there is such a wealth of knowledge otherwise I would have left long time ago.