BEOVISION ECLIPSE

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After having the Eclipse for a month now here is my thoughts:

Sound is great. The best TV sound on the market. Nothing negative to say here.
The negative aspect comes when we go deeper into the picture and av-sync.

The LG C7 has its flaws. Especially when it comes to micro-stutter and latency. LGs true motion doesn't work that very well with a OLED panel because the pixels are instant. So watching TV content or native Youtube or Netflix is not really that nice with the true motion engine. Disabling this helps but still doesn't satisfy my needs. There are still micro-stutter on 24 FPS, 30 FPS and 60 FPS content. LGs real cinema doesn't work either.

If you compare it to the Beovision 11 the judder-effect or soap opera effect was so much better in every way. Smooth as silk but on the Eclipse it gets stuttery. Very stuttery. A firmware fix for the LG was released the other week with bug fixes on this issue and also added the Technicolor mode. Cant wait to see when it arrives for Beoviosn Eclipse. Tests has been made through Testufo to determine frame drops.

The other issue is lip sync. Native apps has this and so does the external CEC HMDI or the HDMI on the soundbar. LG has a workaround - to disable Dolby Atmos. But because its and Beovision Eclipse you cant do that.  Lip sync can be as high as 500 ms and that is not ok for a TV in that price-range.

Conclusion: BeO and LG has a long way ahead to fix these issues. 

 

BeoGreg wrote:

There is a (real) test in french of the 65" Eclipse.

They say picture is perfect (thanks to LG) and (surprisingly) the sound less so (but still very good).

Less latency on the side HDMI's then the ones on the sound center (for gamers).

Overall five stars out of five (but of course they ad you can get better for much cheaper - if you like sound bars...).

https://www.lesnumeriques.com/tv-televiseur/bang-olufsen-beovision-eclipse-65-pouces-p41683/test.html

Surprised that they claim that there are soundbars out there that sounds better than the Eclipse. Surely a matter of taste, but I wonder what bars that is.

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Hiort wrote:

Surprised that they claim that there are soundbars out there that sounds better than the Eclipse. Surely a matter of taste, but I wonder what bars that is.

They referred to Yamaha YSP-2700.

I was like “What..??” as a reaction to that.

Apples and oranges.

It’s to difficult for me to translate (I don’t even understand the tech words in my own language !) but it’s a matter of audio/music capabilities not audio/video.

About the details, precision of the sound. They prefer that Yamaha thing (around 1.000 €).

I have too owned the Eclipse for almost a month. 

I had the Avant 55 first gen and bought the Eclipse due to picture quality, no Android OS and more HDMI that are 4K. But the thing that surprised me the most was the sound.
The sound on the Avant was good for a flat screen but in higher volume the bass did reach its limits. 
But the Eclipse is much better. The sound stage is much wider. Bass and midrange warmer and more closer to the listener. I would compare it to having two BL17's as front speakers on a very flat TV. A true stand alone TV but also a very good centre speaker in the speaker setup. 

The only picture trouble I have had is that I had to turn of a video setting. Can't remember what setting, but it messed up the HDMI inputs and lost connection to the tv.

Otherwise the picture quality is very good. And comparing to the Avant it is truly way better. 
Watching 4K videos on my Oppo UDP player sure is amazing. But that total blackness is amazing. Was looking at the Strange Things 2 on Netflix app in 4K, and wow!  

The only problem that I have, that I think I'm almost alone with, is that my TV on some rare occasions starts on its own. Did freak the *** out of my girlfriend one morning. It has happen maybe two times but still weird. 

To sum up, I'm glad that I went for the Eclipse. Putting picture and sound quality first should be what makes a true Beovision and it is. Better then Avant. And hope to see the OLED in some different designs soon.

//EA 

 tigerisak et al,

I have also had my 65 eclipse for about month now which replaced my 55 Avant and I must say I that really like the picture quality of OLED. I still need to figure out all the adjustments on the picture settings but similar to the issues mentioned by tigerisak I also feel the effect of judder and the soap opera effect which is two things I really hate from any display source (maybe I am overly sensitive to that kind display behavior). If anyone here have a preferred setting that can eliminate/minimize please feel free to share.

For 4K source material via my oppo 205 the picture quality is 2nd to none and my wife and those visitors that have seen it are genuinely impressed and comments a lot when they have watched 4K on it (my wife usually doesn't care that much about the finer art of picture quality but on this one she is often commenting on how great it looks.

Connected I have the following: apple 4k tv, oppo 205 4K blu ray US version, oppo 105d eu version, PS4, Xbox one S which soon is to be replaced by the X and of course the beloved beolab 90s. As for Hdmi cabling I have changed over to "very" expensive fiber cables which has made a huge difference in picture quality of the oppo 205 and the the 2 game consoles. For the Apple TV I have used the belkin cable recommended by apple (no issues so far).

 

I like the improvements of the remote control but wish it had a backlight option when the lights are switched off. Movie sound is great although I use the tv speakers as a center speakers only.

Below is a picture of the setup (sorry for the upside down picture but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to turn it around.

 

Sorry on my computer it sits straight but when I upload it to my profile it turns itself around

Sorry on my computer it sits straight but when I upload it to my profile it turns itself around

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