Oh well Lars, you are fast......just uploaded and you already noticed it.

Good read - if you want to know where your money goes, when you buy the BV Eclipse.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Oh well Lars, you are fast......just uploaded and you already noticed it.

Good read - if you want to know where your money goes, when you buy the BV Eclipse.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Well, the money goes to the same audio engine features we've already had with BV11, Avant & Avant NG, and BV14. The only improvement is the loudspeaker itself, not what else is in the SoundCenter. We've already had those features with previous BeoVisions...

...you know, the ones without the LG TV – with an actual B&O TV!

So I still do not understand where the money goes, given Eclipse's price compared to aforementioned earlier BeoVisions. The value proposition is still off.

Just to be clear, I understand and value the value of the SoundCenter – just not what is above it on the set!

Some dealers have mentioned that the price ratio is 60/40 for the audio/TV of Eclipse. 55" C7 costs €2.500. That ratio would add up to the price of €6.250 for 55" Eclipse (sans the stand/wall-bracket).

KMA wrote:

Just to be clear, I understand and value the value of the SoundCenter – just not what is above it on the set!

That is easy to understand ------ without 'what is above...' there would be no new BeoVision at all.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

That is easy to understand ------ without 'what is above...' there would be no new BeoVision at all.

I still refuse to call Eclipse a BeoVision. That name implies there is B&O in the Vision part. There is not!

Eclipse is the new breed of B&O televisions, born out of necessity in a market where B&O effed up. Maybe some day I'll see more value in the Eclipse, or in another TV that B&O makes with LG. Today is not that day.

Until I see the Eclipse & its value proposition differently, I'll just sit back, shut up on this thread, and be happy for everyone who find that Eclipse ticks all their boxes for a great new television 🙂

PS. I'm partly biased, because I am already enjoying & experiencing LG OLED – with the same picture quality & TV features that Eclipse offers. For me, Eclipse would bring "only" better audio. For €10k, that leaves me with plenty of audio options from B&O's product lineup.

KMA wrote:

Until I see the Eclipse & its value proposition differently, I'll just sit back, shut up on this thread, and be happy for everyone who find that Eclipse ticks all their boxes for a great new television

100% with you KMA. In fact I was wondering if people on this forum will raise their hands if they have bought the Eclipse.Particularly the Eclipse champions.

On the contrary, on the BL 50 discussion forum, 2 people (including me) have actually purchased the BL 50 and there is not even a wee bit of argument / discussion on the value proposition on the speakers and keeping in mind that BL 50 are pricier than Eclipse.

On the Eclipse discussion, there has not been any peace.

I gues i'll raise my hand(s) then for both, although iam not one of the champions for the vision bit of it.

My 65 Eclipse is ordered but has not arrived yet. It will sit between my beolab 90s. I traded my 55 avant at decent a price nd can't wait.

 

svinaik wrote:

KMA wrote:

Until I see the Eclipse & its value proposition differently, I'll just sit back, shut up on this thread, and be happy for everyone who find that Eclipse ticks all their boxes for a great new television

100% with you KMA. In fact I was wondering if people on this forum will raise their hands if they have bought the Eclipse.Particularly the Eclipse champions.

On the contrary, on the BL 50 discussion forum, 2 people (including me) have actually purchased the BL 50 and there is not even a wee bit of argument / discussion on the value proposition on the speakers and keeping in mind that BL 50 are pricier than Eclipse.

On the Eclipse discussion, there has not been any peace.

 

Hanschristian wrote:

My 65 Eclipse is ordered but has not arrived yet. It will sit between my beolab 90s. I traded my 55 avant at decent a price nd can't wait.

 

svinaik wrote:

KMA wrote:

Until I see the Eclipse & its value proposition differently, I'll just sit back, shut up on this thread, and be happy for everyone who find that Eclipse ticks all their boxes for a great new television

100% with you KMA. In fact I was wondering if people on this forum will raise their hands if they have bought the Eclipse.Particularly the Eclipse champions.

On the contrary, on the BL 50 discussion forum, 2 people (including me) have actually purchased the BL 50 and there is not even a wee bit of argument / discussion on the value proposition on the speakers and keeping in mind that BL 50 are pricier than Eclipse.

On the Eclipse discussion, there has not been any peace.

 

That is a super setup you will have :) Please provide pictures once the Eclipse arrive.

Pictures????!!!! 🙂

Millemissen wrote:

KMA wrote:

Just to be clear, I understand and value the value of the SoundCenter – just not what is above it on the set!

That is easy to understand ------ without 'what is above...' there would be no new BeoVision at all.

MM

LGVision with B&O Soundcentre - there is no "Beo" in the Vision part, regardless of how many times you say it.