I to ventured to the Russell St Store on the weekend. Spent an hour with the Eclipse. I was impressed. Was it for me? No!

After an investment in 5 speakers within my living room an additional sound bar of this calibre, would be just overkill. Plus my beolab 2 sits comfortably underneath our TV, it can't do that with the Eclipse.

If there was such a thing as an OLED screen on a Beovision 7 stand or the new Avant at a reasonable price it would do fine. It’s what I and maybe others need. Its possible something similar maybe out soon, who knows?

Just some thoughts.

 

Beoaus.

Picked up the following intel:

- B&O will come with GUI improvements.

- Electronic curtain will come   🙂

- The soundbar include image processing for the sources that are connected through the soundbar connections. So there are 

 

I got one of the first Avant 75's with the SUHD panel - this was in June 2015. Since then they introduced the cut-cost variant, Avant NG, and they have just discontinued that as well. In just approx. 27 months. But I do believe the Eclipse will be around a little longer, but with updates - but not long enough to justify buying a second panel. The total life span of the new Avant was 3 years or so - including the NG versions?

Roger

On the surface a little uncomfortable, but the original 75 is a pretty good panel no?

If you're not bothered by HDR, it should serve you well for a while yet..

Lars Ladingkaer wrote:

This means it will work with any LG OLED beyond.

Yes, but the Eclipse panel has custom rear plastic components etc, which is why it's not a case of buying any off-the-shelf LG panel and dropping it in as a replacement.

To be honest, this sounds like ridiculous wishful thinking encouraging potential Eclipse purchases based on the fact you'll be able to "swap your panel for a newer release later on", forgetting:

a) B&O has a modern history of letting us down on stopping support for TV updates sooner than we expected. Or over-promising and under delivering.

b) Subtly changing the design - think BV10 to BV11 (and even then the speaker grille attachment changed) to BV14 in a few years. Who says that the Eclipse design won't subtly change in a year and they drop support for the original?

c) Any replacement 'custom' LG panel is bound to be quite expensive and potentially at least half the price of the Eclipse retail, for very minimal enhancements. Remember, you'll be buying this replacement from B&O, who will mark it up accordingly.

Hiort wrote:

Picked up the following intel:

- B&O will come with GUI improvements.

- Electronic curtain will come   🙂

- The soundbar include image processing for the sources that are connected through the soundbar connections. So there are 

That is indeed good news! 🤒 If I start to save up money now it will be a proper B&O TV when I can afford it *Wink*

Which is exactly why B&O haven't made any play of this potential feature of the Eclipse.

They are not marketing this as a modular TV - if they did, it deserves some discussion. But they haven't, so it means little.

If your panel is faulty, fine they can just replace that - thats the only difference i can see to the one pice BV's previously.

And again, if you bought an Eclipse today, why would you want to change the panel in the next 3 or 4 years? Maybe beyond that yes, but i wouldn't place any faith that (a) the form factors hasn't changed and (b) the partnership is still alive and kicking. 

And it doesn't really solve the "lack of B&O" in the panel, swapping a 17 LG panel for a future one, given their lack of input into the GUI.

I do still hold out some (small) hope that the GUI gets some future treatment....a hope based on nothing of course, just a hope.

 

moxxey wrote:

Lars Ladingkaer wrote:

This means it will work with any LG OLED beyond.

Yes, but the Eclipse panel has custom rear plastic components etc, which is why it's not a case of buying any off-the-shelf LG panel and dropping it in as a replacement.

 

No, what I meant was that B&O will have no problems selling Eclipse for the next years, and that they either get displays from LG that fits the Sound Center perfectly, or has some options to modify the Sound Center rear part to fit next years LG C8 and C9 the year after.

  /Lars

 

Hiort wrote:

Picked up the following intel:

- B&O will come with GUI improvements.

- Electronic curtain will come

- The soundbar include image processing for the sources that are connected through the soundbar connections.

This intel I like! 🤒

Hiort wrote:

Picked up the following intel:

- B&O will come with GUI improvements.

- Electronic curtain will come

- The soundbar include image processing for the sources that are connected through the soundbar connections. So there are

If this is true or not we will see. Hopefully they have been realizing that people don't like this Frankenstein experience and mismatching menues etc. if they can tailor it to an optimal B&O setup well then that's a good thing. I believe it when I see it.

And, if the soundbar includes image processing - then it would sell like hot cakes without a panel too. It's not just a soundbar then but a beosystem 5 with speakers and a very tiny form factor compared to older editions.

I'd almost rather prefer to buy one separately. Mount it on a wall and a tv above. Why not also introduce a BeoStand with vesa mount? Would open for a world of ideas. The speaker could be designed as a Beovision 7 speaker.

Maybe that's next. We surely won't see just one TV in the model spectrum from now on right?