Lol, yea i guess. But frankly that difference is mostly in the screen, right? I mean, the soundbar is exactly the same other than it physically being bigger. What iam trying to say is that with the 55" you don't get any less speaker or anything else. One thing i find od is that the alu cover for both 55" and 65" is €800 here. Don't get me wrong, i don't mind that, however it seems somewhat strange.I have thought of that option. In Australian dollars the delta between 65" and 55" is $22,000 - $16,000 = $6,000 ... is 1,500 cafe lattes too much to pay for an extra 10" ? BeoNut since '75
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CES 2018 is in January, only a four (!!) months from now. Sony, Panasonic & others will present their new top-of-the-line OLEDs. We already know where Loewe is heading, seeing their prototypes at IFA (FlatpanelsHD has an article on them).It's that time of year when all this year's models start to come down in price, and many already have (LG C7 55", which is in Eclipse, has dropped from €3.790 to €2.490, and dropping). What is certain is that Eclipse's price will not drop to reflect the LG prices, so its value proposition gets worse all the time.If B&O is not a necessity because of multiroom, or blind brand loyalty, now may not be the best time to make a decision on what to get. 4 months will make your wiser.I will need to buy a TV in the next 6 months when my house renovations are complete and I think I'll be hard pushed paying c£5,000 for an Avant 2014 model or earlier when there are sets like the Sony A1 out there now, let alone what might be available in 6 months.
As I've said, B&O shoukd make a stand/soundbar/connection panel that accepts the LG screen of the day/owner's choosingBCES 2018 is in January, only a four (!!) months from now. Sony, Panasonic & others will present their new top-of-the-line OLEDs. We already know where Loewe is heading, seeing their prototypes at IFA (FlatpanelsHD has an article on them). It's that time of year when all this year's models start to come down in price, and many already have (LG C7 55", which is in Eclipse, has dropped from €3.790 to €2.490, and dropping). What is certain is that Eclipse's price will not drop to reflect the LG prices, so its value proposition gets worse all the time. If B&O is not a necessity because of multiroom, or blind brand loyalty, now may not be the best time to make a decision on what to get. 4 months will make your wiser. KMA B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.
I will need to buy a TV in the next 6 months when my house renovations are complete and I think I'll be hard pushed paying c£5,000 for an Avant 2014 model or earlier when there are sets like the Sony A1 out there now, let alone what might be available in 6 months.
CES 2018 is in January, only a four (!!) months from now. Sony, Panasonic & others will present their new top-of-the-line OLEDs. We already know where Loewe is heading, seeing their prototypes at IFA (FlatpanelsHD has an article on them).
It's that time of year when all this year's models start to come down in price, and many already have (LG C7 55", which is in Eclipse, has dropped from €3.790 to €2.490, and dropping). What is certain is that Eclipse's price will not drop to reflect the LG prices, so its value proposition gets worse all the time.
If B&O is not a necessity because of multiroom, or blind brand loyalty, now may not be the best time to make a decision on what to get. 4 months will make your wiser.
What if there is a LG C8 in the BVEclipse this time next year?
MM
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As I've said, B&O shoukd make a stand/soundbar/connection panel that accepts the LG screen of the day/owner's choosing
We've been over this and dismissed it. Completely impractical for various (and very obvious) reasons:
1) B&O has no idea what LG is producing and the middle part of the soundbar needs to fit the panel snuggly for it not to look like a mess. How on earth does B&O produce a universal soundbar to suit current LGs and future LGs? For example, if I went out and spent £2500 on the soundbar now, and want to "pick and choose an LG screen at my leisure" (which is what you're implying), when does that leisure guarantee end? Will B&O 'guarantee' my soundbar fits the panel released in only 6 months time?
2) The soundbar would be extremely expensive on its own. Possibly as much as £2500 or more. Really, seriously, how many soundbars would B&O sell at that price? Most people I know think £800 is a lot for a soundbar.
3) How would B&O integrate the PUC and other elements with a completely separate panel? There's some basic interaction between LG and B&O.
4) The LG panel has a custom back panel. Are you saying that this is disregarded by B&O and you simply just walk into your local high street retailer, pick up any old LG panel, grab your £2500 soundbar from B&O and simply "slot it in and go"?
Do people actually *think* things through?
Not this again?
Wonderful idea in theory, but totally unworkable in practice, i agree.
And i'd add a bit to that 2500 cost (the A9 is 1800 as it is).
In an imaginary universe where this thing exists, if it had some LG plug i guarantee, it would be around 4500.
But anyway, it doesn't exist, so the above is not time well spent, with all due respect to the suggestion.
What if there is a LG C8 in the BVEclipse this time next year?
Yes, there will be a new LG OLED in Eclipse each year.
Expect Eclipse to ship with C8 from sometime next year and C9 the year after.
Thats what B&O told us at the IFA show.
And this do make sense. Since LG is not going to maintain a production of old models, just for one smaller client.
/Lars
As I've said, B&O shoukd make a stand/soundbar/connection panel that accepts the LG screen of the day/owner's choosing
We've been over this and dismissed it. Completely impractical for various (and very obvious) reasons:
1) B&O has no idea what LG is producing and the middle part of the soundbar needs to fit the panel snuggly for it not to look like a mess. How on earth does B&O produce a universal soundbar to suit current LGs and future LGs? For example, if I went out and spent £2500 on the soundbar now, and want to "pick and choose an LG screen at my leisure" (which is what you're implying), when does that leisure guarantee end? Will B&O 'guarantee' my soundbar fits the panel released in only 6 months time?
2) The soundbar would be extremely expensive on its own. Possibly as much as £2500 or more. Really, seriously, how many soundbars would B&O sell at that price? Most people I know think £800 is a lot for a soundbar.
3) How would B&O integrate the PUC and other elements with a completely separate panel? There's some basic interaction between LG and B&O.
4) The LG panel has a custom back panel. Are you saying that this is disregarded by B&O and you simply just walk into your local high street retailer, pick up any old LG panel, grab your £2500 soundbar from B&O and simply "slot it in and go"?
Do people actually *think* things through?
Have you noticed the several previous Beovisions that have a separate sound bar? Quite easy for the screen to have it's separate wall mount or motorised column mount with the sound bar. The panel does not have to slot into the sound bar unless you want a particular look like the Eclipse.
Graham
If there's an LG C8 in the Eclipse next year, I'd hope anyone who buys an Eclipse now can simply switch the C7 for C8, should they want to upgrade. I don't see it happening, though – the upgrade path. Where would all the Eclipse's C7 TVs go? Also, if B&O learns anything from the feedback, they'd invest a bit more in the GUI & user experience of Eclipse Mk II. Bring back a little B&O into the vision part! That would make Mk II a better value proposition. Plus after CES we'll know what new alternatives there are. Perhaps they'll be poor / hideous, or the likes of Sony will double their OLED prices, making Eclipse seem like a better value.Why hurry throwing your money at the current money-milking combo?What if there is a LG C8 in the BVEclipse this time next year?MMThere is a tv - and there is a BV.
Not sure that makes any difference to the thought process above.
I think the point is that if he is thinking of going non-BV, he can chose a 2017 model (Sony, Loewe whatever) or opt for a 2018 model in the new year.
Anyway, those 2018 models won't hit the stores until May 2018 at the earliest, so its not a 6 month wait from here, more like 9-10 months.
As for price drops, i wonder if Loewe prices really do drop very much in the last few months of their cycle. LG etc, sure, they drop. Loewe not so sure, of thats one of the options.
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