Lars Ladingkaer wrote:

elephant:

Is there a "beosystem 5" inside the soundbar

Puncher:

No - that would imply a video engine included.

But presumably there is a PUC module to control the screen.... the reverse of what is found in previous Beovisions.

Graham

vikinger:

There is a videopart in Sound Center as well, since it handles the primary HDMI-inputs. But its merely af videoswitcher like the one found in AV-receivers, switching inputs to the TV-part.

I don't see any videoprocessing in Sound Center.

/Lars

The B&O doco even discourages you from using the spare LG HDMI ports on the panel !

The main reason iam still up in the air over the eclipse is mostly the sound and sound integration. Granted i'd be looking at the 55" version now as i truely can't justify the price of the 65". I'd rather have the 65" but my livingroom isn't that big and i can live with the 55" as its already an upgrade from my bv10-46. I too have been waiting purpousfully on this lg screen and am somewhat disapointed by how much lg there is in the viewing experience. Having said that iam very happy with the sound of it, so its a very mixed bag.

I am of the opinion that sound is more important for immersiveness in films etc than the picture is, how ever both are important, 60/40 split or so.

All in all, i just don't know what to make of it yet, i feel a b&o premium is deffinately warrented, but i feel that this time around it is a bit too much. Even as is i think that much of this discussion would've been less negative if the pricepoint was about 1.5-2k lower for both. Now its much, much more of a consideration before buying even for us fanboys 😎

elephant wrote:

D'accord

I agree

Like you I had been hoping it was THE BeoVision

Now I am struggling - perhaps (without your good reasons) I'll also wait for six months ...

Deep down I am hoping that I could sit down with someone from Struer and discover there is a lot more behind the covers ... I sincerely deeply fanatically hope so ...

As would I. With a chance to chat to those in Struer I would say, "Listen guys, I would pay c£5,000 for your 3 year old Avant 2014 model if it had full array backlit dimming zones." This would have represented the best panel they could have sourced at the time and justify the premium asking price. However, I would have found it difficult to pay a premium in 2014 for an edge lit TV let alone buy that same model now, 3 years later.

The B&O magic was present in the motorised stands and speakers and quite superbly executed I may add - no complaints there and I loved it. Absolutely fine in the audio department too, as we have come to expect from B&O and generally never found disappointment, but... falling short in the video/picture department. The 4K capabilities were not up to date with cheaper competitors; neither HDMI and HDR capabilities when that were available on other sets.

It's fine to charge a premium price IF the product justifies the price tag. It didn't and neither has anything since.

I should really be asking B&O (rather than the forum) why they expected customers to buy their televisions? I should very much like to here their reasoning and justification. It is clear they are fighting a losing battle.

There are people with money to burn; those who don't care about the technology and just want the name, I accept this fact. I am not one of them but acknowledge there is a market. I question though just what percentage of the marketplace this is and whether it enough to keep the brand afloat? I hope so for B&O's sake, I really really do.

The Eclipse isn't what I was hoping for. Having passed over the Avant 85 (don't ask why) and regretting it, I was hoping to get something smaller for the formal room that is elegant but somewhat future proof. The Eclipse is a bit too much for what it is. I'll always buy B&O for audio as I believe it's quality, design, sound and price mix is justifiable but I've given up trying for a B&O tv.

A question I'd like to ask, following SHEFFIELD claiming a number of Eclipse sales.

Who on here has actually pre-ordered/bought an Eclipse? There's a lot of people on this forum - someone must have placed an order. If so, when do you receive you set?

Another 'look' at the BV Eclipse.

A regular test will follow - I suppose also on the Flatpanelshd-site

elephant wrote:

The B&O doco even discourages you from using the spare LG HDMI ports on the panel !

You can use these, for sure - but if you want PUC-controlling of the connected devices, you must use those in the SoundCenter.

MM

Mikipedia wrote:

The main reason iam still up in the air over the eclipse is mostly the sound and sound integration. Granted i'd be looking at the 55" version now as i truely can't justify the price of the 65". I'd rather have the 65" but my livingroom isn't that big and i can live with the 55" as its already an upgrade from my bv10-46. I too have been waiting purpousfully on this lg screen and am somewhat disapointed by how much lg there is in the viewing experience. Having said that iam very happy with the sound of it, so its a very mixed bag.

I have thought of that option.

In Australian dollars the delta between 65" and 55" is $22,000 - $16,000 = $6,000 ... is 1,500 cafe lattes too much to pay for an extra 10" ?

elephant wrote:

is 1,500 cafe lattes too much to pay for an extra 10" ?

Who can drink 1,500 cafe lattes? Hope this answers your question 😎🙂

  /Lars

 

moxxey wrote:

A question I'd like to ask, following SHEFFIELD claiming a number of Eclipse sales.

Who on here has actually pre-ordered/bought an Eclipse? There's a lot of people on this forum - someone must have placed an order. If so, when do you receive you set?

The three that we’ve sold from Ealing are being installed in 4 weeks time upon their arrival. All three are actually to new clients.