I saw the 65" yesterday in the shop. Wow. Just wow! I liked it on the pictures, but it is even more breathtaking live. Bolt, avant garde, non-conventional. I do not understand the complaints about material. It feels very premium to me. And I thought the merge between the monitor and the speaker has melted perfectly. If you did not know there were produced separately, you really could not tell. If they just did a little more to make the software like the one in BV11.

AngloApulian wrote:

svinaik wrote:

B&O has announced that BV 14 (40 and 55 inch) are also being discontinued while the Avant 55 & 75 were already finished, Now it is only Avant 85 but I do feel that this one will go too as B&O completely transitions out of LED TVs.

I wonder what the replacement for the BV14 will be and when it will be announced?

Nothing soon - dealers haven't mentioned a replacement BV14 on the horizon and they often know at least 6 months in advance. Also, a BV14 update would take some publicity/interest away from the Eclipse, which B&O won't want.

mr_anders_son wrote:

Much talk about Loewe in this Eclipse tread BeoVision 14-55 oak...BeoLab 8002 as FRONT....BeoLab 4000 as REAR....BL19 SUB copper 90's edt....BV5 2xHDMI....BV7-32 MK3....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H8....H6 90´s Rose Gold edt....Form 1....U70...A2 Black Copper Special Edt

mr_anders_son wrote:

Much talk about Loewe in this Eclipse tread

I can't recall any previous launches where the focus has been so much on the competition.  The 'competition' was never really an issue previously, which further reinforces my comments that buyers are now starting to question value for money rather than just blindly buying..

I've seen the Eclipse twice now.  I think the cloth fret makes it look 'budget' - it's the alu grille which gives it the B&O look. I watched a few demos, and I have to say the motion handling wasn't up to the ultra-high B&O standards. I actually noticed judder, which is something B&O virtually eliminated when they did their own processing.

Someone mentioned the screen, soundbar and 'bottom bit' all looking like one big piece, and I have to agree. Clever design.

For the dealers sakes, I hope the Eclipse sells well.

Lee

mr_anders_son wrote:

Much talk about Loewe in this Eclipse tread

...and I made an extra thread for that:

/forum/general-discussion-and-questions/the-new-darling---loewe#post-2088472

A lot of the writers here don't seem to appreciate the specific B&O features.

It is all about picture and price.

MM

Indeed, as i posted in my rather lengthy breakdown of the HDTV Test shoot out, the LG won very few of the individual tests compared to the Panasonic and Sony. Processing can make a difference, and theirs seem a bit better than LG's in the end. 

Whether that matters to many (some, sure) prospective Eclipse customers or not, only time will tell - my suspicion is probably not. 

If they struggle, i suspect it reflects a broader issue - the general perception, rightly or wrongly, that tech is moving so quickly is dropping 9k or above on a TV in today's world. Otherwise, the broader pitch for the Eclipse is good - OLED panel, best smart OS, best audio, multi-room, distinctive design.

Reason being for the most part is if b&0 implemented their processing expertise in the eclipse i think that would have been a tv to be reckoned with.

I have never been a fan of lgs picture processing, sony panasonic and the loewes processing is a lot better than the lg it is something you have to see in person to appreciate.

Each to their own but its like buying a kit car a mercedes or bentley on the outside but a ford fiesta engine powering it yes the speaker is B&0 nice and powerful no denying that but the tv itself let's face it is an lg.

Without an ounce of b&0 in it.

I always wanted to own bang-olufsen tv as their was just something special and ahead of it's time in terms of picture for me but i also wanted something bigger than 40" the v1 didn't do for me design wise and the horizon although nice doesn't blow me away in terms of design.

But the picture processing is admirable.

It is funny how this can come as a surprice.

The partnership with LG was announced long ago and it was known that LG would provide the screen/tv part.

If people don't need or appreciate the 'sound work' of B&O, the integration with other B&O products/NL, the one remote etc, there is really no need to buy the Eclipse.

Go find and buy something, that you find better picturewise and save the money for a rainy day.

MM