IA64 wrote:

Out of curiosity, is anyone from B&O management reading this thread ? or it's just a " throw your opinion " and move on ?

I would hope B&O reads this thread and, possibly, takes some notes...

I mean, I'd really like that Regal Red speaker cover for the Christmas season, if I end up buying the Eclipse.

Hear me B&O? _Regal Red_

😁

So, with the addition of the Netflix button, does this mean other TVs like Horizon will start supporting Netflix ? 

 

Is it possible we can still access Netflix without the ugly remote ? 

IA64 wrote:

Out of curiosity, is anyone from B&O management reading this thread ? or it's just a " throw your opinion " and move on ? 

I am pretty sure that 'someone' from B&O is reading this thread.

But I am also sure, they won't tell you.

However, they also know that only very few of their costumers are reading/writing this/on Beoworld.

MM

Beoradio wrote:

I can imagine that the design of the soundbar is a little surprising, but I'm very confident that it is going to be a success.

Just go back to the first impressions and comments on the A9.

In the beginning almost nobody had some positive comments on the A9 design.

Sometimes it takes time to get used to it.

Exactly - let us revisit this thread in two years time to see, what people here thought back then about the BV Eclipse.

MM

Highly doubt it

The Horizon etc have their smart engine bought in, and while the communication has been muddy, it seems clear enough to me that it's as much down to Netflix, and their standards for Netflix certification - so if B&O chapter remote to include the Netflix button, I doubt the Horizon will get the app back

Thus has happened to other TV models from other brands as well

And for the Eclipse you can use a regular BR ONE BT, but that's either extra for the new old style remote, or if you have a spare then no cost

Have some sympathy - as I commented yesterday, it may well grow on some

By the time I left the store yesterday I thought it was kind of cool, whereas I didn't have much initial reaction (apart from it being better than the photos suggest). Admittedly it's no Bv11, but it's certainly distinctive!

And again, two things struck me when I saw the Sony this morning. It's not wall mountable (the Sony rep told me they are advising against, despite ability to do it, as they've had a load of stability issues with people who have gone down that route)

And the sound, while probably surprisingly good for a thin panel, was very underpowered to me. Obviously can be bolstered, but every TV comes with compromises!

Millemissen wrote:

Beoradio wrote:

I can imagine that the design of the soundbar is a little surprising, but I'm very confident that it is going to be a success.

Just go back to the first impressions and comments on the A9.

In the beginning almost nobody had some positive comments on the A9 design.

Sometimes it takes time to get used to it.

Exactly - let us revisit this thread in two years time to see, what people here thought back then about the BV Eclipse.

MM

Design is not the core issue but the value proposition is.

I have yet to question the value proposition on a B&O product before Eclipse (At least the products that I bought, BL 50, BV9, BL5, A9 Beosound 5, etc. etc.). I do not think it is just the 'Design" that is under criticism but the "Value Proposition" which is being challenged. 

Give me Eclipse 65 with floor stand at $ 10,000, I will take it in a heartbeat and "Live with the design weaknesses" but I am not willing to do the same at $ 15,000. At this price point, one has to ask whether the added benefits are worth the asking premium when the most critical part of the TV, i.e. The picture quality, can be had at very low price.

In 2 years time, there may not be any Eclipse if the initial launch does not pan out well.

 

BenSA wrote:

Be nice to hear more from people who have actually seen it. Need more hands on opinions

I've seen it and listened to it, as I wrote in an earlier post. All posters that are bashing the Eclipse based on what you read need to hear and see it "live".

It's a super TV. It lacks some beosignature things like the curtain and menus, I agree.

Could it replace my BV11-46? Absolutely!

Will look stunning on wall mount.

It has all connectivity I need incl Multiroom.

Hiort wrote:

BenSA wrote:

 

Be nice to hear more from people who have actually seen it. Need more hands on opinions

 

 

I've seen it and listened to it, as I wrote in an earlier post. All posters that are bashing the Eclipse based on what you read need to hear and see it "live".

 

It's a super TV. It lacks some beosignature things like the curtain and menus, I agree.

 

 

Could it replace my BV11-46? Absolutely!

 

Will look stunning on wall mount.

 

It has all connectivity I need incl Multiroom.

 

 

I'm all for criticism and debating, part of what this site is all about....but at least give it a chance...go and have a look and decide. 

Hiort wrote:

All posters that are bashing the Eclipse based on what you read need to hear and see it "live".

I couldn't agree more.