Also, the eclipse remote does not even have the mouse feature (wii like) that LG has on their sets. Which is what webOS, web and apps are designed for. 
As LG say in their ad for WebOS "You can use the remote controller like a mouse, so easy, isnt it convenient? It would have been so difficult without the magic remote control".

And the LG also has a small joystick on the back to easily control it. Gone on the Eclipse too. I am getting more and more upset by this product by the minute.. 

BAND'OH! wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

Am I going to buy it after I saw it? no I am going for the cheap alternative for now and settle for the B7 in 65"

Seems like you have arrived at the same decision the rest of us have.

I will not either - simply because I haven't got the money for it.

But I certainly would not go for a 'cheaper' OLED, either.

It is the BV/OLED....or I will stick to my 'old' BeoVision for a while - unlike the 'rest of you'.

MM

Millemissen <- I think you need to change your signature. With the Eclipse "a BV is exactly just an (ordinary) TV" with B&O sound and connectivity added on. 😕

** double post sorry **

svinaik wrote:

Story gets even more crazy in the US. LG E7 65 is $ 3995 only in the US and if you do not mind picking up an open box from the Sony Authorised dealer (absolutely unused TV), it crashed down to $ 2800 only. Hence the price differential becomes even more of an issue here in the US.

I wonder if you can buy the SoundCenter from a B&O dealer and slot in an LG E7? 😁

If so, I can't imagine the SoundCenter would be much more than $2500-3000.

Sandyb wrote:

All very true - though the C7 isn't picture on glass, so the E7 might be a better comparison

But your broader point remains correct

I imagine you can slot another TV on top that's for sure watching the video of the wall bracket but then you woudln't get the B&O Logo and perhaps the BR One.

An alternative would be a regular OLED and a BS35 as a TV sound bar. 

As B&O have partnered with LG to use the Web OS, to me that's just like the Android - it's just another brand .  So previously B&O partnered with Google to use Android TV and now with LG for WebOS.  Like you had to have a Google Store account for apps, you know have the LG Store for apps. 

From what I can tell there is one or two LG apps branded as LG apps, and they really aren't that important and i reckon they could be deleted (if you dont want to see the LG brand on screen).

From the video i watched, now you can see why the Sound Centre is wider than the TV - its so that it can house the bracket that supports the TV and the wall bracket on either the left or the right side. 

So for a long time many of us on this forum have said that B&O shouldn't do software, so here they haven't.  We also said that we want to have something with the latest specs, so they have done that.

I haven't seen the TV in the flesh yet, but my walk past the Melbourne store today i could see it from the outside, but i had to run to my PT session.

Perhaps like Bangle with BMW, this will bring newer customers to the brand, some people that may also be familiar with the way an LG TV works and there is no learning curve.  Granted the TV is priced high, so people will make their own choice about what this means to them.

Reading through the posts, many valid points indeed.  When i was reading that perhaps the TV wont sell well and B&O will have to re consider their pricing structure.  I immediately said to myself, "yeah right.  Every time i go in to the B&O store, they put up their prices again".  I don't think their pricing department really understand, supply and demand, marginal cost, etc.

In Australia now, as the franchise is no longer under B&O control, they charge you for international delivery - will see how much this TV really is gonna cost. 

For me, I'm not sure how , where to place peripherals.

I like the Netflix button actually, it makes it easier to access.  I watch a lot of Netflix.  That being said, it still would have been just as good to have it in the OLED display of the BR One with the Netflix logo (instead of just the source text) - perhaps that would have got them over the line.

From the rear of the TV it would be nice to have one colour instead of the black and the grey. 

I think it might look quite nice with Moxxeys suggestion of the black aluminium or the green.

For a lot of potential customers they wont know that it is an LG TV (perhaps) and consider it as a B&O TV licensed to use the LG Store for apps. But i think as the product is a collaboration, its best to call out in the manuals it is an LG TV.  Sure i would have preferred a different UI skin but i have never used the WebOS.

You can see why this department was disbanded after the mess of the Android platform and BV 14 et al. So maybe if the product is successful this will bring more money TV line.

Interesting times ahead , that's for sure. 

Will let you know what i think when i see it on the weekend. 

KMA wrote:

In fact the LG on Eclipse isn't picture on glass either. It has the back plate material of C7, which is not glass. The E7 on the other hand is picture on glass: the panel is bonded to a glass backplate. KMA

B&O product history since 1991: Ridiculously long to list in a signature.

Aussie Michael wrote:

I imagine you can slot another TV on top that's for sure watching the video of the wall bracket but then you woudln't get the B&O Logo and perhaps the BR One.

An alternative would be a regular OLED and a BS35 as a TV sound bar.

As B&O have partnered with LG to use the Web OS, to me that's just like the Android - it's just another brand . So previously B&O partnered with Google to use Android TV and now with LG for WebOS. Like you had to have a Google Store account for apps, you know have the LG Store for apps.

From what I can tell there is one or two LG apps branded as LG apps, and they really aren't that important and i reckon they could be deleted (if you dont want to see the LG brand on screen).

From the video i watched, now you can see why the Sound Centre is wider than the TV - its so that it can house the bracket that supports the TV and the wall bracket on either the left or the right side.

So for a long time many of us on this forum have said that B&O shouldn't do software, so here they haven't. We also said that we want to have something with the latest specs, so they have done that.

I haven't seen the TV in the flesh yet, but my walk past the Melbourne store today i could see it from the outside, but i had to run to my PT session.

Perhaps like Bangle with BMW, this will bring newer customers to the brand, some people that may also be familiar with the way an LG TV works and there is no learning curve. Granted the TV is priced high, so people will make their own choice about what this means to them.

Reading through the posts, many valid points indeed. When i was reading that perhaps the TV wont sell well and B&O will have to re consider their pricing structure. I immediately said to myself, "yeah right. Every time i go in to the B&O store, they put up their prices again". I don't think their pricing department really understand, supply and demand, marginal cost, etc.

In Australia now, as the franchise is no longer under B&O control, they charge you for international delivery - will see how much this TV really is gonna cost.

For me, I'm not sure how , where to place peripherals.

I like the Netflix button actually, it makes it easier to access. I watch a lot of Netflix. That being said, it still would have been just as good to have it in the OLED display of the BR One with the Netflix logo (instead of just the source text) - perhaps that would have got them over the line.

From the rear of the TV it would be nice to have one colour instead of the black and the grey.

I think it might look quite nice with Moxxeys suggestion of the black aluminium or the green.

For a lot of potential customers they wont know that it is an LG TV (perhaps) and consider it as a B&O TV licensed to use the LG Store for apps. But i think as the product is a collaboration, its best to call out in the manuals it is an LG TV. Sure i would have preferred a different UI skin but i have never used the WebOS.

You can see why this department was disbanded after the mess of the Android platform and BV 14 et al. So maybe if the product is successful this will bring more money TV line.

Interesting times ahead , that's for sure.

Will let you know what i think when i see it on the weekend.