Michael wrote:

For now I'm considering if I should keep my Avant &a speakers or sell all B&O and get something else.

Regrettably Michael I very much agree with your sentiments. I sold all my remaining B&O including a BeoSound 9000, BeoVision 9, BeoLab 9s, BeoSound 8, H5 headphones, BeoSound 3 (constant problems) and a load of BeoComs including 6000s and 2s. I had other B&O products before these but they were with me for many years so not included in my 'relatively short-term' ownership. Looking back I think the 2 products that bought me the most happiness every time I looked at them or used them were the BeoSound 2300 (that lovely sliding glass magic with lights) and of course the iconic BeoSound 9000. I lived with the great BeoLab 8000s for many years too and they were fantastic with an older Avant 32" RF DVD. The 80s and 90s were pure B&O magic for me.

I really don't think I am going to end up buying the Eclipse. I'll be looking at Loewe, Sony or LG now I think, which is a shame in many ways. I agree with a previous poster who suggested that this partnership serves LG much better than it does B&O. I imagine LG are laughing all the way to the bank.

Michael wrote:

Somehow I get the feeling they will sell the sound bar on it's own. On B&O manchesters video it's easy to spot the label on the speaker saying the name SoundCentre as it would be its own device. On a Bv11/14 it would say Beovision on the same spot.

But if they did that, surely the bar wound have to have a retail of £3000 - and who on earth would buy that? I know someone who went to buy the Bose soundbar at £599 and was shocked at that price.

Also, I very much doubt you can just drop in any old TV in to the bar and connect it up and it works seamlessly.

Agreed, and what interface would you use?

Something (a remote? and app?) to control the Beosystem 5.

And then a separate remote to control the TV and its UI.

Possible i guess, can't quite get my head around it though - anyway, unless it happens i won't lose sleep over the question.

I wonder, if there is no B&O in the Eclipse aside from the speaker, does this mean the TV has no pin code protection either? Curious.

moxxey wrote:

But if they did that, surely the bar wound have to have a retail of £3000 - and who on earth would buy that? I know someone who went to buy the Bose soundbar at £599 and was shocked at that price.

Also, I very much doubt you can just drop in any old TV in to the bar and connect it up and it works seamlessly.

As the eclipse has dolby vision,has it also hdr10/hi log gammer hlg ?

moxxey wrote:

Also, I very much doubt you can just drop in any old TV in to the bar and connect it up and it works seamlessly.

But why wouldn't it be possible to put the PUC control into a sound bar to control a separate panel of any make  above?

I agree on the pricing issue though.

How long will Bentley and Rolls Royce be able to differentiate themselves from their bread and butter owners as standard components creep in? At some point they will have just the same issues to address. It's all a question of scale. I remember a colleague driving an 1970's Aston Martin that had door handles from an Austin Allegro and lights from a Vauxhall. Acceptable, but acceptable if the Aston Martin was, say, 50% Austin/Vauxhall?

Once the video engine has just become the standard panel manufacturer's product, there's only the sound bar left to call B&O. Not enough!

Graham

Given that all this years LGs support all 4 HDR formats, i see no reason why the Eclipse would be different.....I know the Panasonic is more limited and won't get Dolby Vision, but they've gone down a different path.