BEOVISION ECLIPSE

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Does that mean a like for like swap i.e. if the panel is faulty they just slot in a new version of the same TV.

Or will that extend to a future panel (supplied by LG).

The difference is quite important i think - in the first case, its for the suppliers benefit. In the second, they're built something close to a truly modular TV / Audio system, which is clearly much more interesting.

Have no idea, but i'm doubtful - they'd have emphasised this surely as part of the pitch, and moreover can there be any guarantee that (a) LG are still the TV supplier the future or (b) a future (lets say 2020-22) LG panel will be fittable to the sound centre?

But yes, interesting if its the latter.

Not expecting you to have the answer by the way!

I get the feelings the last words said in the design meeting for this were "*** it". Its not what I expect from B&O and as someone who really has to think about spending that kind of money its a non-starter. My high end Sony TV looks a hell of a lot better with a couple Beolab 8000s next to it. If they're going to just repackage TVs like this (IE make no effort what so ever) why not just give us a decent AV receiver option so we can pick our own panel and make it work with our B&O equipment? I love B&O but products like this are why a large portion of the Audio/ Video community laugh when you mention them. 

And this comes from someone who dearly loves the brand, but they're making it realllyyyy damn hard. 

Ammier wrote:

Does anyone know if it has bluetooth out so you can pair headphones? I cant find it in the specs.

At least the LG B7 has bluetooth for pairing headphones, so I think the Eclipse has the same feature.

Well, I think this clip says it all about the new Eclipse:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=pWyJP9rlopc

Chris Townsend wrote:
That's very cool if correct, and totally changes things from a long term investment point of view.

Really? Surely in this case its just replacing your whole TV and keeping your separate soundbar and stand!

Well, my beloved 11-55 still a lot years of life left... lol 😁

I'll wait to see the what the early buyers go thru... bugs and all..

Plus does anyone when they start shipping?

Sept? Nov? Dec?

KMA wrote:
Ammier wrote:

 

Does anyone know if it has bluetooth out so you can pair headphones? I cant find it in the specs.

 

 

 

At least the LG B7 has bluetooth for pairing headphones, so I think the Eclipse has the same feature.

 

Cool, thanks!

 

Mentioned built-in airplay : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsfbS0xZ_yU

See the separation of the soundbar and the TV : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02kSNBeBktI

Went to see it.

1. Stand menu now requires list - stand (ok) - manual move (ok) then arrows.

On my Avant it's list (stand shows up first as on the new one but I don't have to press ok even once - just arrows.

Now more cumbersome I think.

2. Speaker bar too wide. Just estethics I guess, too bad because it's now wider than Avant and that was wide.

3. It is very flimsy. Moving the tv by hand makes it bend.

4. The finish is so-so. Even the sound bar. Sad to say. A lot of plastic and gaps.

5. No contrast glass! Only on the plate below the speaker. 🤷‍♂️. I love contrast glass on B&O screens but now it's history at least on this model.

6. No metal frame on the tv. Bye nice aluminum and genuine craftsmanship.

7. Dodgy interface - shows a big HDMI2 logo while waiting for the sources connected to the soundbar to show up. However it boots instantly and with a B&O logo. Audio fades in/out but not the video. I miss the magic. There's a lot of glitches in the interface with different GUI and stuff blinking by in operation changes and turning on.

8. The GUI is all over the place. Several different designs. The settings app is clearly B&O custom and is really not too bad but since it has several styles I don't like it. Not even the right fonts used.

The Lg interface also looks very out of place. Huge, enormous font for channel and source and volume which looks nothing like the webOs startbar that it also has. Very annoying. I prefer elegance and a dark discrete interface. Get used to big white, or blue or whatever kind of text in all kinds of sizes and fonts - all over the screen without any kind of real idea behind it.

9. Speaker fret/grille pokes out in the center as on Beosound 35 almost. Looks like a nice touch but also a bit like the designer grasped for help. We will never know.

10. Netflix and amazon buttons on the remote? I know this was aa necessity but come on. I don't want them.

11. The colors pop, the black is great. Sound is great I think but didn't listen that much.

12. Stand is smaller than the Avant stand and the pipe is thinner too. Looks cheaper and won't extend from the wall as much of course.

13. The aluminum grille looks much better than the dark red cover. It was ugly I think.

14. The 65" I saw was labeled OLED65C7BOZ which turns up as a LG tv license for webos. Guess it means it's the C7 model of LG.

15. There's a lot of plastic on the back. Not very well oriented but I guess people don't usually connect pheriperals all the time.

The Avant and Bv11 was more cleverly designed with easy access ports. The plastic is flimsier than I've ever seen with B&O.

16. The back seems to be fake metal or very thin. Differs from the metal that's nice (on the sound bar). When you look at the set from behind the finishes differs a lot and you can see that much thought went into the soundbar but not to the rest. It's really nicer on the back than on the front! (The speaker bar that is).

All in all these are my first impressions. I was hoping to be ecstatic and I can't say I am. I think the partnership is good but they didn't work on the interface and it's a huge fail. Huge fail. I can't accept an interface that badly designed. It goes totally away from what I believe in. If the interface was designed to fit the tv I would like it much better.

The different materials and unevenness makes me struggle to like it. And the width of the speaker bar makes it hard to love. A bad design choose. Not only does it make it turn less since the speaker will hit the speaker bar sooner than the rest. It also makes it unnecessary wide. Strange choice when everything else is thinner than ANY other B&O Tv.

Not sure what they want really..

I would buy the soundbar alone if it was available. And preferably less wide. I would then buy any TV to use with it and just have the TV be a panel that turns on by HDMI - CEC. That's what they should have released at the same time. Would give B&O a lot of money.

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