BEOVISION ECLIPSE

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There will be no difference in the picture quality versus LG OLED. Same Panel and same video processing.

Michael wrote:



This confirms it:
HDMI IN 1 & 3*
The High Definition Multimedia Interface allows you to connect many different sources, such as set-top boxes, multimedia players, Blu-ray players, or a PC. To operate non-Bang & Olufsen products with your Bang & Olufsen remote control and for optimum sound quality it is recommended to connect products to the HDMI sockets on the SoundCenter.
*HDMI 2 reserved for SoundCenter communication. 

I think the SoundCentre only uses HDMI2 and LAN/CTRL (Ethernet) on the LG TV to communicate with each other.
Why HDMI 2 you might ask. Well, it is because it is the only HDMI ARC port on the LG. It stands for Audio Return Channel so the TV feeds the sound data to the SoundCentre via the same HDMI cable that can send video/audio/data to the TV - that is how sound from the LG internal HDMI-ports and WebOS apps is sent to Powerlink/Wisa/SoundCentre internal speakers.

I am a bit worried that there is no information about Dolby TrueHD, DD+ or Atmos for example. The LG E7 supports it but maybe the SoundCentre processor does not..

Interesting. But the Sound Processor does not have an HDMI Out to the TV so they must use some internal wiring (and I'd say HDMI 2 is rewired internally to the bar since the manual does not mention you should connect the SP to the TV via that port).

So the Sound Processor is basically a source for the TV, and they made it so that the remote can also command the screen (via HDMI-CEC probably).

I will visit my dealer to see how the Screen is connected. But at this point, I'm also interested in seeing a stand-alone "Beosystem 5", especially since it appears that the UI is LG branded. Big turn off and bad surprise if that's confirmed.

As for the supported audio codecs, this page does mention DD+ (unless they screwed it up again - you know what I mean :) ) but no HD formats are in there.

svinaik wrote:
My prediction will be that if B&O does not move enough sets, they may have to revisit the value proposition on these.

I agree. It will be interesting to see the sales figures for the Eclipse. I certainly don't think it will be a disaster but I am not convinced it will be a hot seller by any means, primarily because price + product just don't add up. There will of course be people who may stretch to £10,000 for a revised BV6/BV7 hybrid but I suspect many more will be far more interested in Sony's A1 offering. You can only ask for a premium with a premium product, and this isn't it. I am not sure where this leaves me but too early to know for sure until I see a demo. I wonder if OLED panels will come to the other models? That might be interesting.

Not that I'm surprised, but B&O couldn't get away from the ugly Netflix / Amazon dedicated buttons on the BeoRemote One. Really takes away from the svelte design and sophistication of the look of the remote.

On the look of the Eclipse, it really does look a helluva lot better than the mockups. But since this is truly rebadged and slightly redesigned LG makes the value proposition questionable.

The main differentiator for me from all I have read is the sound, but that begs the question, is the sound really worth the price markup? Would one just want to purchase an LG OLED TV and separate Beolabs?

This television could be a watershed decision moment for B&O. With this television B&O is using the latest and greatest tech to address the naysayers. If this TV doesn't sell as much as B&O have hoped it would, I hope the company will exit the TV business, and go into the surround / video processing business with beosystems. I continue to believe that beosystems will sell WAY MORE than B&O badged TVs.

Just imagine, a Beosystem with all of B&O's sound processing capabilities, video processing capabilities, and jam in Beolink Gateway functionality, for an all in one small-box solution for your home or apartment? Come on. Who wouldn't buy that? Bring your own screen and speakers, and smart home devices.

Maybe I'll swap my BV14-55 to Eclipse...tired of all mess.....
svinaik wrote:

There will be no difference in the picture quality versus LG OLED. Same Panel and same video processing.

Indeed. BV Eclipse has the same panel & processing as LG has across its 2017 B7/C7/E7/G7 and W7 lineup. The TV part is apparently essentially a stock LG OLED TV. Sound & Audio Engine & overall design are B&O.

I do love the Eclipse, especially with a gray fabric speaker fret. The question is, is the sum of its parts (with the planet stand) worth 8.000 euros more than a 55" B7?

You can have the same picture for €1.999 (55B7). The rest is B&O, all together at ~ €10.000.

I'm doing my best & hardest to justify the investment. I'm going back and forth between "oh yes" & "it's nuts".

🙂

Michael wrote:

 

I will visit my dealer to see how the Screen is connected. But at this point, I'm also interested in seeing a stand-alone "Beosystem 5", especially since it appears that the UI is LG branded. Big turn off and bad surprise if that's confirmed.

 

 

This is confirmed. UI is completely the same as on any 500$ supermarket TV, which makes me mad.

 

 

 

Sal wrote:
Just imagine, a Beosystem with all of B&O's sound processing capabilities, video processing capabilities, and jam in Beolink Gateway functionality, for an all in one small-box solution for your home or apartment? Come on. Who wouldn't buy that? Bring your own screen and speakers, and smart home devices.

Could not agree more. I will not hesitate to buy the "Beosystem5" in a heartbeat and add the Sony display. 

Just imagine if they popped that screen into a 14-55 frame, and upgraded the speakers.
Have we gotten confirmation on prices on both sizes???
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