what were your expectations, out of interest.....

with software and smart stuff much more prominent these days,  the combination of  an LG panel, UI and video processing + a Beosound enabled sounder does not make a bad product, probably a pretty good one. Whether the extra's are worth the premium is again a personal value judgment.

The design is subjective of course, it was much better than the pictures suggested.

I'm not sure how much more B&O feeling we are ever likely to get - i.e some combination of LG and B&O feeling and experience wise.

That's why I said that I picked an Avant-NG over the Eclipse although I saw the picture of the Eclipse a month ago.

I want a B&O experience and I think the Avant-NG will be the last TV that will reflect the true experience.

Sandyb wrote:

what were your expectations, out of interest.....

A 'slightly' cheaper £8,000 sound bar! 

Sandyb wrote:

what were your expectations, out of interest.....

with software and smart stuff much more prominent these days,  the combination of  an LG panel, UI and video processing + a Beosound enabled sounder does not make a bad product, probably a pretty good one. Whether the extra's are worth the premium is again a personal value judgment.

The design is subjective of course, it was much better than the pictures suggested.

I'm not sure how much more B&O feeling we are ever likely to get - i.e some combination of LG and B&O feeling and experience wise.

 

From a design perspective, I would have preferred to see a design that showcases the super slim technology that is OLED, which is what the designs from LG offer. I fail to see how anyone can be 'impressed' with this design, complete with ugly sound bar, making the total TV package look huge and  ungainly

Also in materials where is the quality? it doesn't look high end to me.

A better solution would have been a plug in LG screen into a base that contained a stylish speaker- even that would still make it smaller than this offering with the black strip underneath the speaker itself

This product has been years in the 'design stage' I think most most would have come up with a design on the back of a cigarette packet in a few minutes

Still having sold out of TV manufacture it wont matter to B&O if it looks ugly with an LG interface and no curtains- at least when they sell a few units they wont lose money- what a disaster

IA64 wrote:

That's why I said that I picked an Avant-NG over the Eclipse although I saw the picture of the Eclipse a month ago.

I want a B&O experience and I think the Avant-NG will be the last TV that will reflect the true experience.

I wish I was faced with a similar decision but there's no way I am ever buying an edge lit tv again now that OLED is on the market, regardless of brand. If it was full zone backlit (like the Sony Z9 for example with 650) that's a different consideration altogether and chances are I would have gone the Avant route as I also like the design, particularly the movement on a table stand.

BAND'OH! wrote:

IA64 wrote:

That's why I said that I picked an Avant-NG over the Eclipse although I saw the picture of the Eclipse a month ago.

I want a B&O experience and I think the Avant-NG will be the last TV that will reflect the true experience.

I wish I was faced with a similar decision but there's no way I am ever buying an edge lit tv again now that OLED is on the market, regardless of brand. If it was full zone backlit (like the Sony Z9 for example with 650) that's a different consideration altogether and chances are I would have gone the Avant route as I also like the design, particularly the movement on a table stand.

You are right on the button here, and as OLED or QLED gets cheaper I doubt that LCD will last I the AV arena

VANTAGE wrote:

You make a good point regarding our beloved STB Brackets et al, also since apparently the Beovision Eclipse is not available with a table stand like the Avant.

So what solutions are there for people who want to connect e.g. an Apple TV or a PS4 / Xbox to the Eclipse in a way that looks ok?

I guess the next logical step for me would be to go and talk to my dealer :-)

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355f wrote:

You are right on the button here, and as OLED or QLED gets cheaper I doubt that LCD will last I the AV arena

The current QLEDs is also just a LCD type display using quantum dot type backlighting.

There is another type of QLED which is more like OLED. It may premiere around the year 2020, but then I assume it will take further years on for it to become cheap.

  /Lars

Totally agree with your assessment. I would even say that even Z9 will be lower preference for me versus the OLED. Edge Lit LCD TV are really no choice when compared to OLED and even full back lit (Z9 / Avant 85) are really not my preference. I find LED TVs to be too bright and nothing will make me buy one. I am still living with my 1080P Plasma (BV9) and despite many temptations to get 4K TV, I stayed away until HDR became a more common feature. Until I had seen the OLED, I was okay with LED 4K +HDR but after seeing OLED, I am absolutely done with LED.

Coming back to Eclipse, seems like we will have to wait for dust to settle. My prediction will be that if B&O does not move enough sets, they may have to revisit the value proposition on these. I am sure that at a different price point (speaking personally for myself), the objections against the Eclipse will be less important than the benefits of continuing the B&O line up to assimilate various existing equipment.

One question what is the picture quality like??? does it look like your watching an lg tv with an upgraded sound quality??