Emil Jensen wrote:

The BILD 5 is interesting and believe I am looking at that also.

But in real life there is a big difference between Loewe and B&O.

The Processor is not nearly as good

The center speaker is nothing compared to an B&O

The built quilty is nothing to compare (I am here thinking of materiel)

Also plus, you get better picture with the B&O

It will at least have the best panels as LOEWE (Also I do only think LOEWE have the best panels in BILD 7 and 9 or else the price is to good)

It will have a much better smart interface.

In my opinion a far better remote.

Multiroom capability

Also can function as a stereo in your living room.

I understand why you all look at the competition, but in real life there is nothing there have the whole packets as B&O does.

If you are use to B&O and then buy a SONY, you will with guaranty miss some of the magic.

Also price settings was far worse in the BEOVISION 7 and 12 time. So if you would buy then, I dont see the price argument hold up here.

Am I buying a Eclipse? Maybe, if not I am buying a LG B7 but I know the difference between the two.

Beolab 20, Beolab 17, Transmitter 1

Emil Jensen wrote:

I understand why you all look at the competition, but in real life there is nothing there have the whole packets as B&O does.

Maybe, but that's old-school thinking (or should that be distant memories). The Avant and BV14 were hugely let down with software and the customer experience, which is a very "real life" experience (much like the year-long software issues I had with my BV7-40 which drove me nuts). Plus they are hugely expensive and, as Chris rightly points out, there's far less B&O input in the panel part of the Eclipse, meaning the difference between, say, the Eclipse panel and Loewe Bild will be minimal.

There is absolutely no difference in the picture quality in the LG panels, all the way from $ 2000 (LG B7 55 inch)  to $ 14,000 (LG W77 inch) and between the brands. I suggest who are blindly believing in "Price = Quality" are making a mistake. All OLED panels behave the same as long as they come from same production lines.

The only minor differences ( I am truly mean minor) will be driven by the Video processing that is being applied. For Sony OLEDS, they are using their X1 Xtreme processor which may be the best out there but all LG branded (and B&O) will be standard LG processing which, BTW is not that far off from Sony. These are minor differences and if someone can spot it, all glory to that person.

In fact, seems like Loewe has put in more effort in the design space that B&O. Their BILD 5 & 7 have more B&O like aesthetics than the Eclipse which, as I had previously mentioned looks more like a meshing of the Avant and BV7 with the results that it looks kind of odd. 

I am leaning on Loewe 5 , 65 inch ( or 7 if I really feel that additional aspects are worth the price) if I can get that imported into USA (Voltage issue not withstanding). If Loewe does not work out for me, than good old trusted Sony OLED it is...

Loewe actually have some new active speakers that i had the privilege of hearing in harrods mated to the bild 5 and the sound quality was amazing, granted it wasn't b&0 but it was impressive.

Also hooking up b&0 speakers to loewe tvs is simple i had beolab 17s connected to a loewe compose slimframe tv i set the distances volume levels aswell as tell the tv that i was using active speakers which all worked without a hitch.

I even used beolab 14s with the tv all volume controlled with the loewe remote speakers came on with the tv and turned off when the tv was switched off.

Lgs processing to me isn't the best loewes picture processing is a lot better as is motion which is very stable sharp and clear.

Shame B&0 aren't using there video processing in the new eclipse.

Chris Townsend wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

 

The BILD 5 is interesting and believe I am looking at that also.

 

But in real life there is a big difference between Loewe and B&O.

 

The Processor is not nearly as good

 

The center speaker is nothing compared to an B&O

 

The built quilty is nothing to compare (I am here thinking of materiel)

 

Also plus, you get better picture with the B&O

 

It will at least have the best panels as LOEWE (Also I do only think LOEWE have the best panels in BILD 7 and 9 or else the price is to good)

 

It will have a much better smart interface.

 

In my opinion a far better remote.

 

Multiroom capability

 

Also can function as a stereo in your living room.

 

 

I understand why you all look at the competition, but in real life there is nothing there have the whole packets as B&O does.

 

If you are use to B&O and then buy a SONY, you will with guaranty miss some of the magic.

 

Also price settings was far worse in the BEOVISION 7 and 12 time. So if you would buy then, I dont see the price argument hold up here.

 

 

Am I buying a Eclipse? Maybe, if not I am buying a LG B7 but I know the difference between the two.

 

Beolab 20, Beolab 17, Transmitter 1

 

 

 

What processor Emil? The Eclipse will have the same LG video engine as its £2,000 brother, so its picture will be exactly the same. The centre speaker on the Bild is 80 watts and not as good as the Eclipse I'm sure, but as it's going to be mated to Beolab 5s, who cares.

 

 

The remote on the Eclipse will be better, but for £5,000 more, and a smaller less advanced screen I can swallow that

I was thinking about the sound processor, and when you have Beolab 5 this will matter greatly. I highly doubt that the Loewe will handle this as good as Beolab 5 deserves.

And yes beovision Eclipse will have the same video processor as all LG old have, B7 to W7, so it will be best in class, or at least vey very close.

The fact is that we are going to see the best and most updated screen from B&O ever. If you take the Beovision 12 it used the old generation Panasonic panel, where Panasonic had a new much improved for them self. 

Oh look its an Bv 8    👍

Chris Townsend wrote:

Wher did you hear those speakers?

Harrods?

Bv7Mk3 wrote:

Oh look its an Bv 8