olvisab wrote:

People who thinks that oled is a wonderfull upgrade compare to led tv, have certainly never had a full led panel like the bv 7 55 mk2. The quality of its colors and its black which can't be measurable like oled, make the oled option far less interesting.

beolab 5, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 3500, IWS 2000, beovision 7 55 mk2, beotime, beogram 7000 white mmc2, beosound ouverture, beosound essence and the collection continues...

Esax wrote:

I have the beovision 7-55 mk1 and still loking for a bigger tv I rather have. Maybe the eclips is the answer. But it must have b&o spec video engine. B&o always had better depth in the picture then other tv's and easy on the eyes.

 

Going to chech out the eclips on wensday.

With a mk2 you would be even happier. Of course that doesn't solve the problem if we want a bigger tv.

I think a 55 wide tv is the good size for most of the main room. For a better cinema experience, then 85/105 is then justified. at this level of price it is more interesting to buy a beamer and keep a 55 tv for everyday use.

BestSound wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

I have also looked very close at Loewe BILD 5.

A very good looking tv,

I am just missing somethings.

A proper surround processor 

A good enough remote

good enough puc control

a good enough speaker

a better finish 

built in apps as Netflix.

 

And it have my interest that there is a built in essence in the Beovision as it would be better as a radio in the livingroom.

Hi Emil

I'm also a big fan of the Loewe Bild 5 and my choice will be between the new Eclipse and Bild 5, so just very interested to know what you see as the limitations in the build in surround decoder. It can handle true HD and DTS HD, but of course it’s only 5.1 not 7.1

 

As you properly know is that there can be a very large price difference between surround processor. Just see brands as Classe´. Though B&O does not have the best surround processor, It will have a much better one then LOEWE. And plus B&O processor is much better for B&O speakers. So when I have invested for me a lot of money on Beolab 20, I would like the best to drive the speakers.

I would, and I do not have anything to back it up, guess that the surround processor is 1500-2500£ more expensive in a B&O than a Loewe.

Loewe have never been famous for their speakers. 

Hi guys,

My first post, but Beo fan and Beoworld follower for years now. 

I currently own a BV7 40 and I'm very excited about the eclipse 

Does anyone knows if a meuble stand option will be available?

Thanks 

Leo. 

olvisab wrote:

Chris Townsend wrote:

Not really, my super expensive 7-55 had a panel specifically made for it(just like Loewe does now) and extra processing. Even a cinema out mode. And electronic curtains, who invented that?

 

 

Even 7 years down the road, it still has a competitive HD picture. But that's what I was buying into. If it was a bulk standard HD edge lit panel by Samsung (i.e. the mk1) albeit with Beosystem 3 included, I'd be more inclined to agree.

 

 

Now I know the AV development side of things has vanished from Struer, I'll struggle to ever again invest in a Beovision.

People who thinks that oled is a wonderfull upgrade compare to led tv, have certainly never had a full led panel like the bv 7 55 mk2. The quality of its colors and its black which can't be measurable like oled, make the oled option far less interesting.

 

I am happy that you are happy with your MKII. But what you are saying is just plain wrong.

OLED is years ahead of your display in every manner.

Try to look at Flatpanelshd.com They have good comparaison between OLED and Panasonic LED DX900.

Chris Townsend wrote:

Bv7Mk3 wrote:

 

As the Eclipse is based on the lg b7 panel,here is a revew of the b7 panel....

 

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/141951-lg-b7-review-an-oled-superstar

 

 

 

And this is my problem. We are told the Eclipse will have no extra processing or alteration by B&O, not even the curtains.

 

 

The LG is £2,000 and the Eclipse with exactly the same panel is around £10,000. So apart from the sound bar which I'm not prepared to spend the price of a small car for, why would I now not go for another pre mentioned brand?

 

 

Please help me out here gents, you know I love the brand and have recently heavily invested in it. But the TV I'm looking at is bigger, has the extra processing(even has the curtains for goodness sake) has a 5.1 processor, an 80 watt centre speaker, looks fantastic and costs £4,000 less than the smaller 55 inch Eclipse.

 

 

Struggling

The BILD 5 is interesting and believe I am looking at that also.

But in real life there is a big difference between Loewe and B&O.

The Processor is not nearly as good

The center speaker is nothing compared to an B&O

The built quilty is nothing to compare (I am here thinking of materiel)

Also plus, you get better picture with the B&O

It will at least have the best panels as LOEWE (Also I do only think LOEWE have the best panels in BILD 7 and 9 or else the price is to good)

It will have a much better smart interface.

In my opinion a far better remote.

Multiroom capability

Also can function as a stereo in your living room.

I understand why you all look at the competition, but in real life there is nothing there have the whole packets as B&O does.

If you are use to B&O and then buy a SONY, you will with guaranty miss some of the magic.

Also price settings was far worse in the BEOVISION 7 and 12 time. So if you would buy then, I dont see the price argument hold up here.

Am I buying a Eclipse? Maybe, if not I am buying a LG B7 but I know the difference between the two.  

I agree with the above points as this has been my way of thinking for justifying the Eclipse purchase also. I would add a further point that all the B&O equipment I have owned over the years I have been able to sell on, usually for quite a reasonable return when you consider the enjoyment and use I got out of it throughout my ownership. So for me, this is an important factor when considering the Eclipse at its projected price point. I just hope I really like the design in the flesh because that's always what I look for first and foremost. I guess I'll know soon enough.

Emil Jensen wrote:

olvisab wrote:

Chris Townsend wrote:

Not really, my super expensive 7-55 had a panel specifically made for it(just like Loewe does now) and extra processing. Even a cinema out mode. And electronic curtains, who invented that?

 

 

Even 7 years down the road, it still has a competitive HD picture. But that's what I was buying into. If it was a bulk standard HD edge lit panel by Samsung (i.e. the mk1) albeit with Beosystem 3 included, I'd be more inclined to agree.

 

 

Now I know the AV development side of things has vanished from Struer, I'll struggle to ever again invest in a Beovision.

People who thinks that oled is a wonderfull upgrade compare to led tv, have certainly never had a full led panel like the bv 7 55 mk2. The quality of its colors and its black which can't be measurable like oled, make the oled option far less interesting.

 

I am happy that you are happy with your MKII. But what you are saying is just plain wrong.

OLED is years ahead of your display in every manner.

Try to look at Flatpanelshd.com They have good comparaison between OLED and Panasonic LED DX900.

Nothing wrong. An oled is not a WONDERFULL UPGRADE and it is stll LESS INTERESTING when you own an efficient full led tv.

Sorry but I spend enough time in front oled tv for having a good idea of its capabilities and drawback. 

That's just an upgrade at some points.

You should know that many tv sold as full led were finally not better than edge led one (not enough zones, issue with motion/blacks or colors depending of the quality of the panel or the cost of processing built in).

Everything is not black or white, you have bad oled tv also. 

And having the black cloth would save the £800 cost of the aluminium one