:-(

So the magic is in the stand... Pitty!

Imagine a Tv from Apple. They have:

HomeKit (control everything in the best way)

Great Interface (the best) (tvOS)

Great hardware/processor/system design

AirPlay 2 for wireless sound

Siri

FaceTime/motion detection/ARkit etc

ProMotion with real time hz adjustment to material

Natural color compensation for room adoption

Great networking & wifi design

Limit energy consumption & environmental impact is a big thing apple works very much with optimizing always.

Great selection of apps and developers already familiar with iOS, macOS and tvOS for easy adoption to a new "tv-tvOS".

Has great designers and aren't afraid of working with exotic materials as aluminum, steel, gold, liquid metal - ceramics even.

Has the best selling stores in the world. Could easily start selling TVs in store with small easy boxes and a setup that will be a breeze compared to anything else on the market. Just connect it and it is online. Hold your phone or watch near and it can start up almost automatically. (Getting wifi and Apple ID off your device - no need to enter anything).

They have a big focus on room audio adaptation - just look at the homepod introduction.

They also have a microphone system to hear you easily from any direction in a room. Perfect for a TV.

Their platforms are running games and other apps really, really good and really stable - with good speeds. Excellent for a TV as well. No need for a separate Apple TV puck.

I mean, why would anyone not want this?

Apple will not be entering the TV business any time soon! The profit margins are far too low.

Besides, Apple are looking much further into the future of how we’ll be consuming entertainment content by working on AR (Augmented Reality) with their recent release of ARKit to developers.

Apparently there is an essence equivalent in the soundbar of the eclipses so it can sound as an independent audio system as well

Nice idea in theory

They do a lot of things very well, but not everything

Siri isn't very good firstly - maybe none of the voice assistants are either, but they are certainly behind in this area.

Not sure Face time on a big screen is its best use.

And TV OS is very far from perfect - works fine as a disparate set of apps but has a long way to go to become a unified interface and relies on 3rd party services to play ball, which they don't always (Netflix)

The apps themselves are also not all great - I investigated replacing my cable package with streaming subscriptions for tennis, golf and the NFL. Chose not to - the app experience is compromised or unreliable, and these are from big official providers. An Apple TV set might encourage these to develop, but as of now are very compromised.

Personally speaking, current high end TV'S are amazing - I'd rather leave the producing of images and audio to the experts, which Apple aren't.

And I say this as an Apple fan.

And producing TV'S is expensive. It doesn't fit their high margin model.

vlohjr1 wrote:

55

 

7145 with with fabric speaker cover

 

 

Aluminium cover extra 800!

 

Motorised stand 1399

 

 

Looks like a light version of bv7

 

That's actually not that bad. 1000 cheaper would of been better, I think the Avant 55 was 5000 when it launched. The two major things I am curious about is will it come with hdmi 2.1 and will you be able to upgrade the panel. Someone mentioned the later in one of the threads and if its true it could change the longterm value proposition somewhat depending on the cost of the upgrade. 

 

I don't believe the current 2017 LG's come with 2.1, so i doubt that the Eclipse will.

From what i read, full 2.1 capability requires a hardware upgrade. Certain aspects (dynamic metadata for HDR) may work over 2.0 with a software upgrade. 

Personally i wouldn't worry, but thats just me.

Most of these new capabilities require physical discs to show the TV's ability at its best. I'm not inclined to upgrade my (30-40) Blu-Rays to 4K UHD versions, and then again to HFR versions anytime soon. Picture quality is pretty damn good on Blu-Ray, and yes while 4K HDR versions will be better, in the end most modern films (which is what will be available in newer formats) aren't very good. Upgrading a disc collection is also expensive - my Blu-Ray discs cost 10 pounds max, fine for a classic movie, but 4K UHD discs are roughly 25 pounds....

So i wouldn't worry about it

Sandyb wrote:

I don't believe the current 2017 LG's come with 2.1, so i doubt that the Eclipse will.

From what i read, full 2.1 capability requires a hardware upgrade. Certain aspects (dynamic metadata for HDR) may work over 2.0 with a software upgrade. 

Personally i wouldn't worry, but thats just me.

Most of these new capabilities require physical discs to show the TV's ability at its best. I'm not inclined to upgrade my (30-40) Blu-Rays to 4K UHD versions, and then again to HFR versions anytime soon. Picture quality is pretty damn good on Blu-Ray, and yes while 4K HDR versions will be better, in the end most modern films (which is what will be available in newer formats) aren't very good. Upgrading a disc collection is also expensive - my Blu-Ray discs cost 10 pounds max, fine for a classic movie, but 4K UHD discs are roughly 25 pounds....

So i wouldn't worry about it

Good points, I agree I dont think not having it is a deal breaker.  

 

Beofan2 wrote:

http://www.recordere.dk/2017/08/beovision-eclipse-oled-tv-ventes-klar-paa-ifa/ An article in Danish with a mock up.

This is 95% correct