Only as long as B&O customers say they don’t care. I think B&O want to have Atmos support. At least I hope so. I always look to the future and not the other way :)I'd say that is very very unlikely. The Stage has up-firing speakers as an inherent part of its design, so it had to have some Atmos handling ability. While it would be sensible for Atmos capability to be added to the Eclipse / Harmony I guess, you can bet your bottom dollar that B&O wont add it. They will assume that either (1) TrueImage is more than sufficient and a decent proxy (no idea if that's really true), or that (2) too few of their customers are that bothered by full Atmos setups. After all, everyone (B&O included) seem to report selling fewer surround packages than years ago. You may hope, but I would suggest expectation is the wrong way to prepare yourself.
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I don't think it's as simple as that, the dolby atmos part is an upscaler like the trueImage is and you can't run them both at the same time. Even if you could, dolby would not allow it. secondly the switching between the dolby upscaler for movies and the trueImage for music would need to be flawless for us a customers. I think it's not a lack of them wanting, but more the practical side of things of how to built it all in to one system and if dolby would even allow that with licencing and all that.
I’m not so sure how it works technically but Dolby atmos systems can also be calibrated so the room acoustics are taken into consideration and then the atmos codec will be able to properly place sounds in the room. True image is just the name B&O use for a lot of standardized solutions and their own profiles of speakers data, distance and so on so it can be used - I think - in different parts depending on what it is said to do. Upscale from 2.0 to 5.1 is not going to be disabled as atmos is not 2.0, it will continue working for those stereo files we have. And 5.1 dts can be rendered correctly too as trueimage only has to channel the .1 channel to the most capable speakers and maybe re route some other low frequencies to that place, and level out speakers distance (latency and volume). I just hope we will get support for it. TrueImage seem to have developed through the years as well as people usually say the new systems render diffent than BeoSys4 and BeoSys3 did it different to etc.I don't think it's as simple as that, the dolby atmos part is an upscaler like the trueImage is and you can't run them both at the same time. Even if you could, dolby would not allow it. secondly the switching between the dolby upscaler for movies and the trueImage for music would need to be flawless for us a customers. I think it's not a lack of them wanting, but more the practical side of things of how to built it all in to one system and if dolby would even allow that with licencing and all that. New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0 Mikipedia on YouTube (finally ) https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
Atmos can be 2.0, atmos suffers from terrible marketing and explanation of what it actually is. Atmos can go on headphones and even technically a single point speaker. It’s an upscaler with virtualization for 3d audio. It’s not a speaker preset so to say. It is almost exactly what trueimage is but with 3d meta data. Henrik had several rants about it on the podcast as he works with this stuff proffesionally and also used to be in to the whole cinema thing on the side. In Henrik’s interview with Geoff, Geoff even said that the whole system room acoustic mic thing was good, but tended to have a measurable deficiancy compared to old fashioned measuring for distance etc. And that’s why they didn’t implement it in the eclipse and harmony. (Slightly paraphrasing) you can look it up on BOTF/ Bang & Olufsen teknisk forum on YT for the interview.
Yes I’ve seen that movie. Curiously they do use that technique for the beolab 50/90 though. :).Anyway, yes atmos is about space and not amount of speakers. It’s not stereo sound or surround sound it’s sound to be placed in the room, as you also say. I don’t know why it would not be possible to play atmos on a B&O system when so many other devices can, trueimage doesn’t have to work fully at that time, just atmos I gather. Then we have an option to choose. Not sure how it works on the stage but stage I suppose does it’s own sound image using trueimage as well for sources without atmos?Atmos can be 2.0, atmos suffers from terrible marketing and explanation of what it actually is. Atmos can go on headphones and even technically a single point speaker. It’s an upscaler with virtualization for 3d audio. It’s not a speaker preset so to say. It is almost exactly what trueimage is but with 3d meta data. Henrik had several rants about it on the podcast as he works with this stuff proffesionally and also used to be in to the whole cinema thing on the side. In Henrik’s interview with Geoff, Geoff even said that the whole system room acoustic mic thing was good, but tended to have a measurable deficiancy compared to old fashioned measuring for distance etc. And that’s why they didn’t implement it in the eclipse and harmony. (Slightly paraphrasing) you can look it up on BOTF/ Bang & Olufsen teknisk forum on YT for the interview. New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0 Mikipedia on YouTube (finally ) https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.
Hi Michael
I am following this forum concerning mixing and matching inital soundcenters with newer LG panels. You are stating following: 'Even a regular CX panel works flawlessly with the Soundcenter........
How do you come to this statement? I am currently trying to make the combination of a initial Soundcenter with a new LG OLED65CX6 and nothing is working flawlessly using the B&O app on the LG TV and the Beoremote One BT for remote control. Practically no function is working.
Do you have an own experience or do you know other people which have managed to make it work beside 'spezializten' with C9 77" LG TV?
Regards - Christian
Do you have both the HDMI and Cat cable running between them? If not, then most won't work right to begin with.
Like a couple of others - I’m intrigued to know whether the v1 soundcentre can work with the 2020 LG CX oled screens.
It’s an easy answer to getting my Lab 6000’s running with a B&O centre and Beoremote One controlled - but B&O are still investigating ....
Like a couple of others - I’m intrigued to know whether the v1 soundcentre can work with the 2020 LG CX oled screens.
It’s an easy answer to getting my Lab 6000’s running with a B&O centre and Beoremote One controlled - but B&O are still investigating ....
As far as I know the SoundCenter Eclipse MK1 has a shape that is made specifically for the B&O version of the C7 panel. That one is not the same cut out as newer panels. A few people have used SoundCenter Eclipse MK1 with other screens such as CX and I think that have worked well. But this is not an official solution and requires you to mount the panel/tv separately if you can not make a custom mount or such.
Hi Mikipidia
Thx for your good advise. These connections are in place and i also tested it also with other cables which did not make a difference.
Please be informed, that i managed yesterday in my desesperation to make it work....but only with my iPhone B&O app. As i had already my Essence (with an Ouverture) registered in the B&O app, i thought why not trying once to register the 'Eclipse' in this app. And oh wonder the registration process went throught and for the first time i could chose the defined resources (from the LG B&O app) and also the volume level regulation worked for the first time.
But still a very frustrating BR1 which is not working starting the defined resources and also not able to regulate sound level. I already made a factory reset with the BR1 and got loaded all configurations on it, but still no success.
Any idea about this BR1 problem?
Regards
Christian
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