moxxey wrote:

Emil Jensen wrote:

I would not buy a Beovision without these functions, at least not for my livingroom.

My point is/was, an increasing number of people won't or don't use them and controlling the TV direction from a remote really is a luxury not necessary on those low-end TVs. That's why they sit in that bracket. Almost no-one is going to connect a Horizon or Contour to a BL5.

I do agree PL is lacking and should have been added, but that's an issue with the Stage, but the rest for me - and many - are increasingly superfluous. 

We have to remember, and we almost never do, that the BeoWorld audience is not your general B&O audience and B&O has to design accordingly to the wider market.

But in my experience most B&O users use their motorized stand, and have been used to it since the 90'

And yes it is a Luxury, but is that not the reason to buy a Beovision?

And the Harmony have only got a motorized stand now because of public demand.

So I really do not agree with you on this point.

Moxxey, I use a Beoremote one to fully control my Sky Q 2TB box via PUC on a BV11-55. I never use the sky remote which is actually put away in the attic. The BR One does everything.. 

I ask you a question: what should now be the right Beovision to replace a BV 8-40 with 5 connected beolabs (not BL5 ...)? The Contour would have been perfect in size and price. Or am I wrong ?

@mseverg68 : yes you're completely wrong as the Contour doesn't have any output for your 5 speakers. I'm also considering upgrading my BV8 40 with something better, hesitating between Harmony and Eclipse, but with a little 15-month child at home I think I might better wait some more years 😐

Emil Jensen wrote:

And the Harmony have only got a motorized stand now because of public demand.

I can give you the exact opposite argument with the Eclipse which has now a fixed stand option because of public demand! Maybe there is approx 50% of users needing it and 50% that doesn't care! 😁

moxxey wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

My Beoremote 1 controls my Sky Q box.....not sure what the issue is (unless I'm missing something)

Are you sure? How? The 4K Sky Q box is notorious for not being externally controllable. There was never a PUC option on my BV11 either (although there was for Sky HD).

What can you control? There's basic control via the TV, but I can't change channel, for example.

Sure as a sure thing. Sky Q box on my Eclipse since day 1 is controlled - with all functions excluding voice control - by onboard PUC. Super reliable as well.

mbee wrote:

I can give you the exact opposite argument with the Eclipse which has now a fixed stand option because of public demand! Maybe there is approx 50% of users needing it and 50% that doesn't care!

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The BV Horizon didn’t came with a motorised floor stand, as the V1-40or BV8, and while the BV Contour has almost the aspect of a BV 11, it’s an entry-level Beovision so we’re accustomed of not seeing motorised stand for this category...

But the real issue is that the Contour is just a stage + LG 48 panel + a frame, so unfortunately, as for power link, there is no dedicated electronics inside it to control a stand 🙁

moxxey wrote:

Are you sure? How? The 4K Sky Q box is notorious for not being externally controllable. There was never a PUC option on my BV11 either (although there was for Sky HD).

What can you control? There's basic control via the TV, but I can't change channel, for example.