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Beolab wrote:

We can just go in under Menu and press 00+Go to accsess the Service Menu, but the Costumer Service Menu dosen´t exist!

There IS a CSM!

It can be accesed by pressing RED then GO while the cursor is placed on the CONNECTIONS field.
Then select ADJUSTMENTS and you will be able to switch the FILM MODE ON/OFF.

 

Moxxey,

I am with you, if this is now the standard of the products B&O release then I do not think that they will survive.

To have HDMI lead effectively pass thru  the chassis to connect to the board is sloppy at best, this is really p1$$ poor integration from a so called leader of the AV world. Once the customer finds out that they are truly being taken for a ride then they will not return again. 

If B&O do read these forums then they had better take notice of the dismay at the recent product releases particularly the software update issues as one or two products that fall short may be acceptable one after the other is not especially at the price level. They are not some quirky geeky hifi company they are a multinational brand.

B&O better shape up or they will be shipping out! 

 

Just my thoughts but I very much doubt I'm alone.

Beolife. I completely agree. I still have problems with my bv7-40... 3 software updates in 3 months.... One replacement TV (from 32 to 40) and after all thos crap of blaming other equipment such as ps3 and hdmi cables (!!) Hahaha.. They are increasing the prices by 10%!!! What a 5*1t business plan and way of working€ frankly I couldn't really care less if b and o go bust anymore. They have been reling on our good will for years and its us that are working for them. Instead some dealers we get are clowns (not mine thankfully), the after service is horse_faeses (sorry in advance) and they believe that making you feel like a valued customer is by sending a toiletpaper questionaire and some preprinted letter. I should get a phone call and a box of chocolates from denmark with compliments for that bloody money we pay for aluminium!

You know what also, I read somewhere that special equipment was built so that they could 'brush' the aluminum of the bv7., ie make the aluminium have loads of littled lines for decor purposes... Etc etc... I noticed just today that the top of a coke can has the same effect! Seriously, I think I'm going to get a pair of bl9s afterall just because I can't afford the bl5s now, and whenever I can afford them, swap the bl9s instantly and then drop the b and o hobby until they actually do something decent with our money, like actually build something instead of rebadging

Someone at B&O told me today that they were going to get a BV8-40 for their home to replace their aging 12-year-old CRT. Borrowed a unit over the weekend, watched some SD, then quickly realised that the real-life performance, for most users (who don't have the luxury of having HD), is dire. Far worse than even a 12-year-old CRT. Isn't it funny how dealers use BBC HD Preview to demonstrate their TVs. Only this, plus about three other channels, can be used to get the most from the current B&O LCDs.

I do wonder if B&O thoroughly test their new TVs with an SD source. I wonder who signs off a £10K as ready for consumer use, after seeing the average everyday performance of the TV for most of their users. ie. those who simply connect it up to analogue SD broadcasts or, if they are lucky, a Freeview source?

I find it somewhat laughable that this MKIV is worse for SD than the MKIII. I find it laughable that I receive my 4 x HDMI socketed TV to find that two 'external' HDMI sockets are used for internal modules. I find it laughable that the TV keeps crashing showing Sky TV, then has to be turned off and then on at mains to reset. I find it laughable that the Blu-ray internal player sounds like an old DVD drive from, say, 1997, it's that noisy. You barely could hear the old DVD drive. Now it's bizarrely noisy.

I'm struggling to find anything good to say about this MKIV. Blu-ray is, perhaps, a tad improved, but I'm also 95% sure that the audio performance is more poor than the same Blu-ray played through the PS3. I've seen Dark Knight a couple of times now and the audio was outstanding. Audio via the internal Blu-ray player was more acceptable than outstanding. Something isn't right. It's not decoding it correctly.

My dealer has agreed to give me back my MKIII (phew) and they are going to run their own internal tests in the store.

Is not poor SD PQ,especially from the internal tuner,an indication of poor processing/upscaling on the part of the TV?

One would not expect this to be the case for a TV at this price point.

One does wonder if your unit is a faulty one.

How does the retailer's unit compare?

I would agree that for allegedly integrated units to be utilising external sockets is inexcusable.

One might as well be using  a separate BD player with a higher pedigree than that of Samsung.

TerryM wrote:

Is not poor SD PQ,especially from the internal tuner,an indication of poor processing/upscaling on the part of the TV?

How does the retailer's unit compare?

I don't know Terry, it is perplexing. The internals (ie. BS3) should process the incoming signal in the same manner as the MKIII.

The retailer doesn't have their MKIV on display at the moment, although they do have one ready to go on display.

It would seem B&O has released a product that is not meeting it's customers expectations and, more worryingly it seems as if it is becoming a bit of a habit!

At this sort of pricepoint there should be no problem in having an extended home trial before purchase - it would also signal the manufacturers confidence in the product for which they are asking you to shell out several (in not tens of) thousands of pounds.

My takeaway would be -

Try before you buy (and never buy sight unseen).

moxxey wrote:

DVB-HD module is in preparation for terrestrial HD, I was told! Funny thing is though, when it scans for TV channels, it puts them all in bizarre order (BBC2 on channel 18, BBC1 on channel 19 etc). Known problem, I'm told.

This is not a problem that i am aware of, you have to select the transmitter from the tuning menu.  The DVB module logs the channels in order of frequency, so when you select your local transmitter from the tuning menu it puts them back into the correct order.

moxxey wrote:

No, watching Sky - which I've done since 2003 - results in a complete TV crash. I have to then switch it off/on at the mains, including all the other kit connected to that mains socket.

I'm wondering if the DVB-HD module, connected to HDMI, interferes with the Sky HD HDMI connection? ie. some kind of handshaking issue, which causes it to crash. If I remove the scart lead (required for controlling the Sky box), it crashes far less frequentely. If connected, it crashes every 15-20 minutes.

Hi Moxxey,

On point 1, is you box shutting down or are you just losing the picture, what i mean by that is can you still get the Sky menus, TV Guide etc, or does the whole thing just die?  The reason I ask is that a lot of Sky HD boxes are failing with the new software that has been downloaded but the symptom is no satellite signal message but still menus to navigate.

Point 2, the scart cable no longer needs to be connected on the new chassis and software versions.