ok , that saved me £8k

thx moxxey😮

It gets worse Flappo. Two more observations:

1) SD, even though Sky HD (ie. BBC 1 on Sky HD) is *worse* than on the MKIII. Significantly worse! More pixelated, poor colours etc. WTF? Sky SD used to be fine. It's got worse.

2) When you pause a Blu-ray (ie. press 'stop' on the remote), you would have thought that pressing 'go' again would start the DVD? Oh no. You have to press yellow, then 'go'. WTF?

TV is only turning off when watching Sky, which means it's a HDCP/handshaking problem, I'd guess. TV via DTV-HD or watching a Blu-ray is fine. When watching Sky, the TV crashes after about 10 minutes!

i wonder why they didn't utilise the blue button on the beo4 for blu ray ?

seems the most logical

I think B&O should hire some good AV software engineers right now. And this at any cost as it is just becoming too important.

Everything electronic is now basically software based with with multiple processors instead of a just a lot of (limiting) carefully selected electronic parts put together. Software issues are a problem for all electronics manufacturers, not just B&O.

I just installed the latest update for my samsung blu-ray player (4TH ONE THIS YEAR!!!!) just to give you a example. The model (BD1500) is over 2 yrs old now and still needs updates. Knowing this in advance did not stop me from buying (and enjoying) it. It worked ok then, but works really good now and I did not regret buying it.

Also last week I watched a demo of the latest series samsung tv's with pc-streaming capabilities auto-updates, widgets etc. Took them over 3 hrs to make it work in the store ......  Most of the functions didn't work till 2 days (any many updates) later and even then it still has tendencies to crash. 
Though the concept of that tv is interesting, just like a new B&O this new Samsung I would NOT consider a finished product ready for the market. (though coming close still has to filter out some of the bugs.)

Technology has come a long way in a very short time so I guess it's something we have to learn to live with, i'm afraid... 

Flappo The Grate wrote:

i wonder why they didn't utilise the blue button on the beo4 for blu ray ?

seems the most logical

LOL ... Exactly my thoughts as well 😂

Beolab wrote:

mooxey, can you look in to the Costumer Service Menu under Signal information when you watch TV! Because ours dosen´t interpolate at all! It says Output signal: 50Hz!! It should be 100Hz... I have asked B&O about this..

I can confirm it says 50HZ!

PANEL: 1920 1080P 50Hz

I've noticed a 'FILM JUDDER CANCEL  AUTO' option in the picture adjustments. Any ideas?

Barely anything about the MKIV excites me. I'm tempted to ask for my money back and my old MKIII. How does a professional high-end company such as B&O produce a TV which is more poor than the previous version but then release it thinking it's an improvement? Perplexed.

WOW i was thinking about getting the MKIV but now i will just run past the B & O shop quickly and save my money.  Jesus i never suspected they would push out such an underdeveloped package as the MkIV.  It not as if the Blueray era has just erupted on the scene. Bad B & O.  They need to do some explaining fast.  I will now go and clean my Mk III and the PS3.

Same here. I have been holding off waiting for this but I'm passing on the basis of this thread! Today I was offered MkIII with DVD for same price as MkIII without DVD. If the panel as Moxxey says is only slightly better, then sounds like I should be going for the deal!

gofer wrote:

If the panel as Moxxey says is only slightly better, then sounds like I should be going for the deal!

No, in most ways it's *worse*. I'd say Blu-ray's are a small improvement, BBC HD a small improvement, but everything else is worse! Channel 4 HD (which is generally SD, upscaled), worse. BBC1, worse. Usability, worse. Connections, worse.

In fact, Beolab said he'd compared a MKIV to a MKIII in his store and said that the only difference he noticed was that the MKIV was brighter. It is. However, it didn't *need* to be brighter.

If B&O are reading this and are angry I'm putting off potential upgraders, then I'd suggest they discuss it directly with myself. I've got a lot to tell them; starting with my dealer tomorrow morning.

Something else I can't understand: with the MKIII it shipped with a sharpness factory default of 14. We had to lower this (I had mine as '10'), to give a good balance between SD and HD. However, with the MKIV, again it's set to 14, but I've had to *increase* this to 18 to make SD more clear. That can't be right? Sharpness should make a bad signal worse.

EDIT: I said it had stopped crashing. No, wrong. It's still crashing, just not as frequentely.