BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

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ernie wrote:

Unfortunately divx, mp3 and Jpeg will not be supported

 

Bye

Ernie

The "stock" 2500 player (if the B&O player is indeed based on that one) supports these formats with a firmware update. Again, B&O should try to keep its own player current.

 

Regards,

Jean

 

 

B & O has made it easy for themselves this time! They have simply Flashed in a PUC control for the inbuilt blu-ray player because you have to press SHIFT (YELLOW ARROW) first and then right/left button to rewind or change Chapter!

Exact the sam procedure as if you connect a external Samsung BDP-2500 and use PUC control !

 

 

B&O think they are smart, but they can´t fool me!

I may have misunderstood, and if so, please correct me.

1. BD is fitted in the BV7, which has a screen size that doesn't need the BD image resolution.

2. But BD high resolution audio isn't enabled, by a company which grew its reputation in audio?

Did I get this right?

Hello together,

can you please give me more informations about the quality of DVD upscaling, problems with blu-ray 1080/24p, sharpness and deep black, playing Audio CD.

regards

Obermurkler

no doubt it will arrive in the bv7 mkV in 6-12 months time

and there goes another £/$ 5k... [:'(]

OK, my BV7-40 MKIV has been installed this morning. Here are my brief initial thoughts (in no particular order):

1) Freeview module improved. Much better layout/structure and use. No real improvement to PQ.

2) Only two (!!) HDMI sockets free out of the four advertised. Blu-ray drive uses one (a cable passed through the system and connects to one HDMI socket) and the DVB HD uses another. This is got to be the single most annoying part of the new system. Why oh why have B&O advertised 4 x HDMI sockets, but 'forgotten' to add the caveat that two of those sockets are in-use?

3) Blu-ray playback *is* better and more fluid than on the old MKIII. Watched the opening sequence on my old favourite Casino Royale, using the internal player, and the movement is more fluid, screen keeps up with fast camera panning and it's a little brighter. I'd say it's about 10-15% of an improvement watching a Blu-ray compared to the same Blu-ray on the older MKIII.

4) Internal Blu-ray drive is noisy. A bit embarrassing to be honest. Strange that we've got this top-end well crafted TV, but a really noisy internal drive. Doesn't really seem to synergise properly. It's no noisier than the PS3 drive, but I didn't pay £10K for a PS3.

5) The internal Blu-ray drive seems a bit of a hack, probably as it simply passes a cable through the a HDMI socket and is no better than an external Blu-ray player.

6) The Blu-ray player ships with a decent 'loading' screen. Using it though is a bit bizarre. You have to press yellow + > to fast forward etc. It was easier to use the Blu-ray remote with the PS3 ;)

7) Sky HD. HD channels were no step up from the previous MKIII. Perhaps a tad brighter, but definitely less than a 5% improvement. Perhaps I'll get a better impression once I've watched more TV - ie. football on HD could be interesting as the 100Hz screen should help the fast camera panning.

 

Worth upgrading from the MKIII to MKIV? Probably not, no. The lack of HDMI ports and the hard-to-use Blu-ray player make it more of a hassle than the previous MKIII. The PQ improvement is very small. Blu-ray improved slightly, everything else pretty much 'as is'.

soundproof wrote:

2. But BD high resolution audio isn't enabled, by a company which grew its reputation in audio?

I don't know. Still confused. Uncompressed PCM is supported, but I think it's DTS HD that isn't? Most old Blu-ray's used DTS HD, so I wonder what the TV does when you choose DTS HD? I think it downconverts to standard Dolby Digital.

From how I have read the spec, it supports TrueHD, DTS, DD and PCM.  Not DTS-HD MA.

A TrueHD stream contains an underlying DD stream for decoders that don't support it.  Similarly, a DTS-HD MA stream contains an underlying DTS stream.

I don't think I own any blu-ray's with DTS-HD MA, but any that did would get output as straight DTS.  I would have thought most discs have a choice of both TrueHD or DTS, or even uncompressed PCM on some music discs, so it shouldn't be a huge issue.  The PS3 didn't even support it until April last year.

Just had a skim through the BV7-40 MKIV user-instructions. No mention of Blu-ray or the Blu-ray drive. Nothing. No addendum or anything!

Worse, the instructions tell you about the connections, including the 4 x HDMI sockets. Absolutely no mention that the Blu-ray drive and the DVB-HD module take up two of these sockets.

No mention that V.AUX has disappeared from the new model, either.

Also, why does the replacement DVB-T module (DVB-HD) connect to HDMI as default when this doesn't apply to all markets? I can't see BBC HD listed on the Freeview settings, for example.

This is really poor for such an expensive TV. It's as if the instructions were written for the MKIII, bundled with the MKIV and they hoped no-one would notice...

One more observation, and one for Peter who thinks the BV7 is poor with SD, is that Freeview is *worse* on the MKIV compared to the MKIII. Yes, worse. SD is definitely even more pixelated. I'd say HD TV is a slight step up from the MKIII though.

I wonder if B&O only bother testing their new TVs with HD-sourced TV programming? Wouldn't surprise me ;)

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