I think one of their big mistakes was falling for silicon valley's BS, namely Android TV.  I think many of the issues with B&O's Android TVs are directly traceable to Android itself (i.e. Sony can't even make it work). 

I've seen this movie before:  Management loves the "Android strategy" - license an "industry standard" "platform", and automatically get access to the "smart" apps everyone is clamoring for.  Fewer engineers required?  Even better!  Some of the remaining engineers try to make it work, realize first hand what a pile of crap Android is, and push back.  However, those "trouble makers" get pushed out for being "resistant to change".  The rest put out their resumes.  Some of the best and brightest leave.  The downward spiral goes on... 

Is the BV14 now discontinued? If so, good to grab at attractive price?

Christophe wrote:

Loewe TVs have their own OS software, I don't think B&O is a smaller company than Loewe ? At least the TV doesn't become obsolete if you haven't made the last update or if there are no more updates from third parties .. Some people will argue that BeoMaster 5 had a proper B&O OS and that it is no longer updated .. which is true: is it so hard to hire a software developer in Denmark?!

Mikipidia wrote:

I think Loewe is waaay bigger now on the tv front. If i remember right in 2016 or 2017 they sold 700.000+ units in germany alone. They’re the third biggest seller behind lg and samsung and they all run on the same tv os that’s based on html5.

I was told Loewe wants to work with b&o and help each other out, but b&o doesn’t want to New: Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beovision eclipse.

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Old: Beolab 1's, beolab 2, beovision 10-46, overture 2300, beolab 8000's, beolab 4000's, beovision avant 32" etc. etc.

What size BV are you looking to purchase?  If you're going for a 40 or 46 you might not benefit that much from 4K.  In that case I'd suggest going for a BV11 instead.

steve1977 wrote:

Let me clarify my Q.

The BV14 is basically a BV11 with 4k, wooden grill and android. I know most people don’t like android, but i’d anyway use an ATV and the googlecast feature of the bv14.

In this context, is the bv14 a good buy if i find a good deal?

Completly agree with BV11 UI/UX platform being great and outperforming Andriod/webOS. And when supplemented by a ATV 4 or 5 it does not get much better.

WebOS and Android has no B&O feel to them. Also curtains are missing!

I hope B&O eventually will be able to do a better integration of LG panels to make something like a BV11/BV14 refresh and be able to customize/modifiy the UI/UX og WebOS to make it have some B&O look and feel and visiual simplicity.

Just because we know the meaning of the Smart TV concept I have yet to see it realized in any TV. 

Desrux wrote:

WebOS and Android has no B&O feel to them. Also curtains are missing!

beotex wrote:

Desrux wrote:

 

WebOS and Android has no B&O feel to them. Also curtains are missing!

 

 

 

Small clarification - you do have the curtains on Android. At least my Avant NG has them.

 

 

And for the record, I’ve been very happy with the TV, stability, and multi-room capability.

Very happy with the Tv ? no bugs, crashes, outdated Android Tv ?