ThatGuyFromDenmark wrote:

While the problem are annoying (I have them myself), your analysis is too simple to be useful.

As a (former) prospective purchaser, I find it very useful!

ThatGuyFromDenmark wrote:

While the problem are annoying (I have them myself), your analysis is too simple to be useful.

You are ignoring the picture processing engine, the sound configuration, the integration to other products and the other stuff that also goes into a B&O television.

Some elements are lacking and it is disappointing that a TV with so fundamental problems was released, nobody is disagreeing on that. But to say they just dressed up a Chinese TV is ignorant at best.

You can't build a great high standard house when the foundation is lousy. That's what B&O tried here with this cheapo thingy. I'm glad to read about the issues here, it just confirms, that it still is a wise decision to better buy a Beovision 11 or the Avant.

The perfomance of the Beovision 14 (and some other B&O products) is inacceptable. If it was sold for e.g. 2000 Euro okay, than it would be just okay and the typical issues of nowadays crappy cheapo products, but if you adorn yourself with buzzwords like luxury, high quality craftsmanship, high end etc. you HAVE to deliver to be taken serious.
They've clearly lost the track and they seem to work very hard to convince people "Oh yes, Bang & Olufsen, isn't this the overpriced designer stuff that sucks and only looks good?". I don' think that this is the right way a reputation should be targeted at...


For all Beovision 14 customers I hope that B&O will fix it to have them satisfied with their purchases!

ThatGuyFromDenmark wrote:

Some elements are lacking and it is disappointing that a TV with so fundamental problems was released, nobody is disagreeing on that. But to say they just dressed up a Chinese TV is ignorant at best.

I agree with you on that.

The biggest problem, that I see, is that the guys in Struer already must be deeply involved in the getting the new (LG/B&O-) tv working.

How much time will these few guys have to 'repair' the current platform?

Some of them are still (and thanks for that) working on the BV11 etc platform.

My guess - after the big update in March we won't see much work on the AndroidTV platform (?).

Hopefuly that update will be sufficient for those to be ok.

MM

Guy wrote:

As a (former) prospective purchaser, I find it very useful!

I hope your analysis is not based on his opening statement that B&O is basically rebranded Chinese televisions. That would be far from the truth.

ThatGuyFromDenmark wrote:

I hope your analysis is not based on his opening statement that B&O is basically rebranded Chinese televisions. That would be far from the truth.

I have been very close to demanding full refund on a number of occasions. The only thing that has stopped me is that when it's working (without fault) it's stunning and what would I replace it with?  I have researched the possibilities and could do it for a lot less money but I do no think it would realistically be the same experience and functionality. 

I have also considered demanding a loan BV11 untiL the issues have been sorted but it's shuch a hassle to uninstall and reinstall. An engineer is coming this week to check all settings and replace the remote (again) as the one I have does not update fully apparently!

i was offered some " compensation " in the form of extended warranty from 3 years to 6 years, I may need it at this rate!

I think that is a good point, and i have had similar thoughts...clearly there's been a lot of instability issues with the new TVs, and i agree its not acceptable, but lets not lose perspective too much.....its a beautiful design, the sound is excellent, the audio engine is great too, and i even think that, post-update, the picture quality now looks excellent (sure there are a few better LCD/LED high end screens out there)........my lingering question is about Android TV, not because it is by nature this unstable, more over whether B&O have the chops to sort it out........an Avant seems the only alternative if you want to make a change........

I was in the market for a tv last year and boiled it down to a straight choice between a Sony and a Panasonic. All reviews pointed to the Sony and I all but pulled the trigger but ended up on the Sony forums - it was alight with complaints about Android tv - poor Sony must have wondered what had hit them! I bought the Panasonic and haven't looked back, however that isn't my point but this-

 I think maybe that the android tv operating system isn't just a "big phone" but different enough to still be underdeveloped and it hasn't caught on in the way im sure they'd have hoped. While im sure b&o are culpable for releasing untested products I would look to others like sony to see if they've managed to resovle their issues - if not I would advise giving android powered models a very wide berth.

Hi 

I must say that almost everything works perfectly for me after the update !

Do you guys also get a error message when trying to open the Netlfix app  ? "This version of netflix-app is not compatible with your unit"?

/Kim

interesting.....i updated, had a load of crashes, was told to power off for 45m,clear the caches........crashed again, repeated, and since then....absolutely fine........