Peter wrote:

Just ordered mine!  Or pre-ordered anyway!! 😂 This is what I have been waiting for - everything I am looking for in a new set to replace my Avant. If I am completely honest, an easel frame like the BV5 would be even better but now I am just quibbling. Hope for it beginning of December and will switch to Sky HD at the same time.

Congrats, Peter. I would like one too...

Is it still no picture of it avilable? The small one that apperead in the threed is almost impossible to make a judgement from. Although it seems sweet!

it's marvellous :-) just a few weeks for you guys ;-)

I was at the launch in Belgium too.

BV 10 looks like a big I-Phone of Apple: upper half is the 40" (Samsung) screen, under half is similar size for the loudspeakers.

The frame was in silver and will come in other colors.

Price € 7000?. (Samsung 8000/40 + Bose = € 1650 + € 3000, but more open system - so strong inclination to leave B&O)

I miss also the built-in blue ray player. A better alternative would be to have a blue ray player in my BC2. HD requires at least a blue ray player (basic marketing) (Avant had also VHS player or BC2 with DVD). Could B&O not foresee an upgrade? (just replace reader) to lock in current customers.

After some discussion with a good Dutch B&O guy, their vision is rather to go in the direction like a multi media box like TViX HD M-6500A (as they did in Gent, Belgium launch) because all content will be downloaded according to him (I-tunes). Can be driven with your B&O remote control. Need to find out how I can read commercial blu ray discs then. My own HD video's can be downloaded through ethernet network.

Who has also a clear vision on this: HD TV + playing HD movies (commercial + own productions) all in one package and not by adding boxes: I spent more for B&O because it is all in one lean concept. With the BV10 I need to add boxes.....

I was told that not the frame but the speakercovers will come in different colours.... 

Correct. But they told me that the metallic silver line around it will come in different colors too

It's totally unfair to compare the BV10 with a Samsung 8000+ Bose combination :

-The Samsung TV gives an awful image, mainly due to the undeactivable autocontrast, it erases all details, but also very restricted vision field. Blacks are not blacks when the leds are on on a black part, etc. Awful. You should compare with a Sony WE5 which gives a vastly superior image... Oh yes, I forgot : all this buzz about LED which makes people buy LED TVs without actually seeing that the image is worst that any good CCFL LCD... And I don't speak of maintenance rate of Samsung TVs, which is very low, even compared with Sony...
-The Bose soundsystem is far inferior to the integrated sound of the BV10. Believe me, the sound of the BV10 is totally awesome, even more when you look at how thin the speaker is.
-Design, finition, material : I understand that it's not what justify the investment, but it's better
-Think of second hand value...

The Samsung 8000+Bose system are much more close to the BV8 offering, but with the BV8, you get better sound and picture quality.

A good comparison would be to place the BV10 side by side with the new Loewe Reference, which I saw yesterday : The Loewe set is as slim, gives a good picture (I would say a bit inferior to a B&O picture, but very close for the vast majority of us), has an aluminium cabinet, glass an aluminium finish, and has an electrostatic speaker, giving a decent sound (still inferior to B&O), but lacking of bass (need for a sub). The Loewe is only available in 52" screen size, and costs 12000€ (TV only). For this price you have an in built digital recorder, but due to the total immaturity of HD recording and HD formats, I prefer the external solution for evolutivity (as long as there's no real standard for video codecs).
I don't believe that the 50" BV10 could be more or equal to 12000€. The BV10 price point (6500€) is really good, as the set is really appealing, for its style but also for its performance, an equation which previous B&O TVs (except the BV8) didn't solve.

For me the BV10 will be a bestseller, XXI century Avant...

congrats x nothing like catching your dream...makes life worth living x

wish you many years of enjoyable viewing x

mq

JOCA wrote:

I miss also the built-in blue ray player. A better alternative would be to have a blue ray player in my BC2. HD requires at least a blue ray player (basic marketing) (Avant had also VHS player or BC2 with DVD). Could B&O not foresee an upgrade? (just replace reader) to lock in current customers. 

If you consider the price for the Blu-Ray player option on BeoVision 7 I´m more than happy that the BV 10 don´t have a buildt in. 

I think the Blu-Ray in BV 7 is the most overpriced thing to this date. That´s why Iplan to buy a 10, instead of a 7.

Come on folks, some one must have a picture or a skeetch of this future masterpiece!

Thank you very much for your feed-back and I must admit I'm searching and not a specialist like you.  I'm happy to see that other B&O fans look to other makes and solutions as well.

The Sony WE5= € 1200.

You say that "the sound of the BV10 is totally awesome": do you mean "bad"? or "very good"/ terrific well? I heard it and it sounded very good.

In any case I use with my Avant 4O" a BC2 and 4 BeoLab 4000's and a BeoLab 2 and want to move to HD + blu ray and I'm searching for a good solution.

The immaturity of HD formats? are blu ray discs not a standard format. I hope I can also burn blu ray discs (with Adobe Premiere) of my video's and run on a blu ray player.

Thanks again